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ClarkB
With a controversial decision in the first fight, I wanted to take a closer look at the 3 judges in tonight's rematch and how they scored some recent fights.

1. Peter Trematerra (from Florida)

- Had Jason Litzau ahead 68-64 thru 7 rounds vs Jose Hernandez (exactly the same as the other 2 judges)

- Winky Wright 117-109 vs Ike Quartey (117-110 the other 2 judges)

- Joel Julio 114-113 vs Cosme Rivera (115-112 Julio, and 115-112 Rivera, Julio down in 12th)

- Manuel Garnica 116-112 Carlos Maussa (115-113, 117-111)

- Sultan Ibragimov 115-112 vs Ray Austin (113-113, and 114-112 Austin)

- Juan Urango 115-113 vs Naoufel Ben Rabah (116-112, 117-111)

- Miguel Cotto 116-111 Paul Malignaggi (116-111, 115-112)

- Julio Diaz 119-109 Ricky Quiles (120-108, 118-110)

- Isaac Hlatshwayo 117-111 Nate Campbell (116-112 Hlatshwayo, 115-113 Campbell)

- Jameel 'Big Vagina' McCline 100-89 Marcus McGee (exactly the same as the other 2 judges)

- Glen Johnson 119-108 Richard Hall (119-107, 118-109)

- Antonio Tarver 117-111 Roy Jones 3rd fight (116-112, 116-112)

- Jeff Lacy 70-57 thru 7 rounds vs Robin Reid (same as other 2 judges)

- Robert Hawkins 97-93 Kendrick Releford (96-94 Hawkins, 96-94 Releford)

- Edison Miranda 120-107 Jose Varela (120-107, 119-108)

- Francisco Lorenzo 97-92 Nate Campbell (96-93 Lorenzo, 95-94 Cambpell)

- Carlos Baldomir 116-112 Miguel Angel Rodriguez (116-112, 116-113)

- Isaac Mendoza 96-94 Americo Santos (Santos 96-94, Santos 98-92)

- Jean Marc Mormeck 116-110 Wayne Braithwaite (115-111, 114-112)

- Mike Arnaoutis draw 114-114 Juan Urango (114-114, 115-113 Urango)

- Joel Casamayor 98-92 Daniel Seda (same as other 2 judges)

- Juan Urango 58-55 Sergey Sorokin (60-53, 60-53)

- Acelino Freitas 105-105 even thru 11 vs Jorge Barrios (106-103 Freitas, 106-104 Barrios)




2. John Keane (from England)

- Floyd Mayweather 120-108 Carlos Baldomir (120-108, 118-110)

- Matt Skelton 117-112 Danny Williams (117-112, 115-114)

- Masamori Tokuyama 116-113 Jose Navarro (116-113, 117-113)

- Marco Antonio Barrera 118-109 Robbie Peden (118-108, 118-108)

- Tomasz Adamek 117-113 Paul Briggs - 1st fight (115-113, 114-114)

- Erik Morales 115-112 Jesus Chavez (118-108, 117-109)

- Cory Spinks 117-110 Ricardo Mayorga (114-112, 114-114)

- Eric Lucas 115-114 Markus Beyer (116-113 for Beyer both other judges)

- Erik Morales 117-111 Paulie Ayala (117-111, 116-112)

- Floyd Mayweather 115-111 Jose Luis Castillo - first fight (115-111, 116-111)

- Oscar De La Hoya 119-108 Javier Castillejo (same as other 2 judges)

- Floyd Mayweather 90-78 thru 9 rounds vs Diego Corrales (90-79, 89-79)

- Jose Luis Castillo 114-114 Draw vs Stevie Johnston - 2nd fight - (114-114, 115-114 Johnston)

- Oscar De La Hoya 116-113 Ike Quartey (116-112 De La Hoya, 115-114 Quartey)



3. Daniel Van de Wiele (from Germany)

- Manny Pacquiao 118-108 Oscar Larios (117-110, 120-106)

- Oleg Maskaev 118-109 Sinan Samil Sam (118-111, 116-111)

- Corrales 86-85 thru 9 rounds vs Jose Luis Castillo - first fight (87-84 Corrales, 87-84 Castillo)

- Bernard Hopkins 117-111 Howard Eastman (119-110, 116-112)


From what I can gather from the judges, I don't see anything that would suggest they would be biased towards either fighter.

While Peter Trematerra is from Florida and mainly only works in Florida, I don't see much real biased on his scorecards towards the fighter who often fights in Florida. So although Peter has fought in Florida several times, I doubt that will have much effect on Trematerra's decision. Trematerra did score against Florida fighter Nate Campbell twice, but on the other hand he gave close decision to Joel Julio, Sultan Ibragimov, and Juan Urango, all of whom had fought several times previously in Florida.

With judge John Keane from England, the only thing I could really notice from his recent scorecards is that perhaps he favors the boxer more - as he did score Cory Spinks by wide margin 117-110 over Ricardo Mayorga, Mayweather a shutout against Baldomir, and Mayweather 115-111 over Castillo in their first fight. I personally thought Mayorga and Castillo won those fights close.

And Daniel Van de Weilde from Germany didn't appear to have any noticable pattern to how he scored the few fights I found - but most of his fights were overseas that I didn't see, so I couldn't really tell you much about him. He also referees too.

So overall I think we should see clean, fair, and unbiased judging......well at least that's what I hope, but you never know in boxing.

The referee is Jorge Alonso.
glockw0rk
good find man.

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hookercut
Sup Clark? Long time no see. Good post man.. Hope you stick around the boards for a while. cool.gif
ClarkB
QUOTE(hookercut @ Jan 6 2007, 08:31 PM) *

Sup Clark? Long time no see. Good post man.. Hope you stick around the boards for a while. cool.gif


Thanks Hookercut. I've been posting at BT when i find the time...didn't know you guys had so many people at this site....think I'm gonna start posting at both now, seems like there's alot of good posters here.
Ringside
I'll been posting the KO video captures that i take of Toney layin' on the canvas..Heh !
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