slickvik
Nov 4 2009, 11:57 AM
I believe Margarito can re-apply for his license in a couple of months. I would like to see the CSAC not grant him a license. Ever. His cheating was totally unacceptable and could have killed someone. He needs to face the punishment and be made an example of. He's just as bad as Luis Resto to me.
anonymous
Nov 4 2009, 12:02 PM
I don't care either way but I won't shell out money to see him again. I used to buy all his PPV's and saw him in Carson. Those days are over.
pumpkinlee
Nov 4 2009, 12:06 PM
I dont know if he is going to get the lifetime ban but he wont ever get another big fight. He was avoided before he was caught cheating. He's done.
PorkChopXprz
Nov 4 2009, 12:07 PM
Yep.
superfan
Nov 4 2009, 12:08 PM
I don't really agree with a life time suspension for a 1 time offense, but I certainly wouldn't cry any tears for him if they dropped the hammer on him.
sadbuttrue
Nov 4 2009, 12:10 PM
QUOTE(superfan @ Nov 4 2009, 02:08 PM)

I don't really agree with a life time suspension for a 1 time offense, but I certainly wouldn't cry any tears for him if they dropped the hammer on him.
Cosign.
cbfalcon
Nov 4 2009, 12:31 PM
QUOTE(superfan @ Nov 4 2009, 12:08 PM)

I don't really agree with a life time suspension for a 1 time offense
QUOTE
but I certainly wouldn't cry any tears for him if they dropped the hammer on him.
c0rvette
Nov 4 2009, 01:16 PM
QUOTE(superfan @ Nov 4 2009, 03:08 PM)

I don't really agree with a life time suspension for a 1 time offense, but I certainly wouldn't cry any tears for him if they dropped the hammer on him.
or maybe it was just the first time he was caught. But anyways, I say ban him for life, they did it to Resto, why not Margarito.
Cincere
Nov 4 2009, 01:21 PM
QUOTE(c0rvette @ Nov 4 2009, 01:16 PM)

or maybe it was just the first time he was caught. But anyways, I say ban him for life, they did it to Resto, why not Margarito.
WORD
ILLUMINATI
Nov 4 2009, 01:35 PM
QUOTE(pumpkinlee @ Nov 4 2009, 12:06 PM)

I dont know if he is going to get the lifetime ban but he wont ever get another big fight. He was avoided before he was caught cheating. He's done.
He was avoided by Floyd Maywether.....thats it...
at Welterweight in the last few years Margarito fought everybody...Cintron,Williams,Clottey,Cotto and Mosley...
Gatti Forever
Nov 4 2009, 01:45 PM
If Cotto loses to Pac in November, maybe I'm alone, but I'd love to see a Cotto/Margarito II.
Let's see how well Margarito does the second time around without loaded gloves.
K X P
Nov 4 2009, 02:04 PM
Anyone who TRIES to load gloves should be banned from boxing. Period. If it could be proven he cheated for other fights he should also face criminal charges.
K X P
c0rvette
Nov 4 2009, 02:24 PM
QUOTE(K X P @ Nov 4 2009, 05:04 PM)

Anyone who TRIES to load gloves should be banned from boxing. Period. If it could be proven he cheated for other fights he should also face criminal charges.
K X P
Spot on.
Integrital
Nov 4 2009, 02:33 PM
Doesn't particularly matter to me. I was one of his biggest fans here, if not the biggest. Now I have no desire to see him fight again.
"Disappointed" doesn't really cover it.
c0rvette
Nov 4 2009, 02:34 PM
QUOTE(Integrital @ Nov 4 2009, 05:33 PM)

Doesn't particularly matter to me. I was one of his biggest fans here, if not the biggest. Now I have no desire to see him fight again.
"Disappointed" doesn't really cover it.
Definately the Hairiest, definately as my fav boxer likes to say, definately
CommanderVander
Nov 4 2009, 02:53 PM
Unfortunately I think Margarito's actions after the fight and the court ruling speak just as loudly if not louder than his cheating.
Let's just say for a moment that you can buy the fact that Margarito was unaware of what was being put on his hands. Wouldn't you be completely disappointed in your trainer and want to distance yourself from him if that was the case? As opposed to still hanging around with him afterwards?
To some extent Margarito has "done his time". He has been a good soldier so to speak. He hasn't tried to fight outside of the U.S. which he could have done. But, once the year is up, I'm sure it is going to be a matter of whether he fights in the U.S. going forward or whether he fights outside of the U.S. going forward. I'm sure Arum will put him on one of his TV Azteca shows from Mexico and give him a few fights.
Big Damage
Nov 4 2009, 04:05 PM
QUOTE(K X P @ Nov 4 2009, 03:04 PM)

Anyone who TRIES to load gloves should be banned from boxing. Period. If it could be proven he cheated for other fights he should also face criminal charges.
K X P
I agree 100% with this.
Margarito's only way out of this is if his story that he didn't know is believed. Personally, I don't believe him.
If it was up to me, he'd be banned for life.
SenseFullViolence
Nov 4 2009, 04:21 PM
I loved Margarito. One of my faves.
If i ruled, id ban him for life.
And it doesnt matter if "he knew" or not. This should be a strict liability issue. You SHOULD know if someone is loading your gloves.
If the punishment is this strict and severe (and a lifetime ban is as severe as it gets), than boxers will be DAMN SURE that their gloves arent loaded.
Smelodies
Nov 4 2009, 04:30 PM
QUOTE(pumpkinlee @ Nov 4 2009, 03:06 PM)

I dont know if he is going to get the lifetime ban but he wont ever get another big fight. He was avoided before he was caught cheating. He's done.
Disagree.
QUOTE(Gatti Forever @ Nov 4 2009, 04:45 PM)

If Cotto loses to Pac in November, maybe I'm alone, but I'd love to see a Cotto/Margarito II.
Cosign.
Win or lose, really.
amck73
Nov 4 2009, 04:30 PM
QUOTE(K X P @ Nov 4 2009, 05:04 PM)

Anyone who TRIES to load gloves should be banned from boxing. Period. If it could be proven he cheated for other fights he should also face criminal charges.
K X P
This right here sums it up. Boxing is a dangerous sport as it is.
snakepayne
Nov 4 2009, 05:25 PM
QUOTE(Integrital @ Nov 4 2009, 09:33 PM)

Doesn't particularly matter to me. I was one of his biggest fans here, if not the biggest. Now I have no desire to see him fight again.
"Disappointed" doesn't really cover it.
Don,t post often but I feel the same way. I bought a t-shirt of him from Leavander Johnson actions and don,t wear it anymore. I feel ashamed and betrayed.
Clubber Lang
Nov 4 2009, 06:11 PM
It sucks because everyone here loved him before we found out the truth. I say ban him for life. Take him out fishing and do him like Fredo.
msp1518
Nov 4 2009, 07:29 PM
Can anyone put themselves out there saying the guy hasn't been cheating all along? Really?
What he did was criminal. It was dangerous in the extreme. He deserves a lifetime ban.
Smelodies
Nov 4 2009, 07:36 PM
If Tyson could continue to box after biting of motherfucking ears, Margarito should be able to return to boxing (clean wraps).
RODEMEYER
Nov 4 2009, 07:49 PM
is he still with Crapietello?
perfectjet
Nov 4 2009, 07:56 PM
Ban him.
but ban every other cheat as well. the lot.
RODEMEYER
Nov 4 2009, 08:03 PM
QUOTE(perfectjet @ Nov 5 2009, 12:56 AM)

Ban him.
but ban every other cheat as well. the lot.
what level of cheating are we talking about?
DetroitMex
Nov 4 2009, 08:08 PM
QUOTE(Smelodies @ Nov 4 2009, 06:30 PM)

Disagree.
Cosign.
Win or lose, really.
So you think Margarito should be rewarded by getting another shot at Cotto? Really? Wow, that is really fair. Why not give Margarito about $ 3 million as well. That will show him.
Smelodies
Nov 4 2009, 08:17 PM
QUOTE(DetroitMex @ Nov 4 2009, 11:08 PM)

So you think Margarito should be rewarded by getting another shot at Cotto? Really? Wow, that is really fair. Why not give Margarito about $ 3 million as well. That will show him.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see Cotto attempt to avenge his loss in an honest fight. I don't give a fuck about who gets paid what.
Side note, I also want to see Mosley avenge his loss to Cotto.
Cincere
Nov 4 2009, 08:17 PM
QUOTE(Smelodies @ Nov 4 2009, 08:14 PM)

I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see Cotto attempt to avenge his loss in an honest fight. I don't give a fuck about who gets paid what.
Marg doesnt deserve the spotlight at all or a huge payday. Besides Marg is done. Cotto took a chunk of his ass and SSM finished him off with style.
DetroitMex
Nov 4 2009, 08:20 PM
QUOTE(Smelodies @ Nov 4 2009, 10:17 PM)

I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see Cotto attempt to avenge his loss in an honest fight. I don't give a fuck about who gets paid what.
Side note, I also want to see Mosley avenge his loss to Cotto.
Do you also want Hitler to get another shot at the Allies?
Smelodies
Nov 4 2009, 08:24 PM
QUOTE(Cincere @ Nov 4 2009, 11:17 PM)

Marg doesnt deserve the spotlight at all or a huge payday. Besides Marg is done. Cotto took a chunk of his ass and SSM finished him off with style.
No telling whether Margarito is "done." Or whether he had punching ability in the first place without that ignoble assist. Which is why I want to see him fight again.
Congratulations to the New York Yankees, MLB Champions 2009.
leee
Nov 4 2009, 08:25 PM
QUOTE(DetroitMex @ Nov 4 2009, 09:20 PM)

Do you also want Hitler to get another shot at the Allies?
lol, the WBC would have just suspended him and let him fight wars in Africa for a year. Dude, stop making me like your posts!
Smelodies would have been like.........well he put up a good fight when he blitzkrieg Europe and we don't
really know if he was cheating so I want to see it again.
Street Cred Certified
Nov 4 2009, 08:27 PM
QUOTE(Smelodies @ Nov 4 2009, 08:17 PM)

I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants to see Cotto attempt to avenge his loss in an honest fight. I don't give a fuck about who gets paid what.
Side note, I also want to see Mosley avenge his loss to Cotto.
cotto has gone on record saying he wont ever give margarito the chance to make money off of him.
margarito needs to get rid of crapetillo and it looks really bad that he hasn't.
Smelodies
Nov 4 2009, 08:34 PM
QUOTE(Street Cred Certified @ Nov 4 2009, 11:27 PM)

cotto has gone on record saying he wont ever give margarito the chance to make money off of him.
And when boxers go on record, they never go back on what they say.
DetroitMex
Nov 4 2009, 08:36 PM
QUOTE(Smelodies @ Nov 4 2009, 10:34 PM)

And when boxers go on record, they never go back on what they say.
Damn Smel, you are being combatitive tonight, you drunk?
sadbuttrue
Nov 4 2009, 08:37 PM
QUOTE(DetroitMex @ Nov 4 2009, 10:20 PM)

Do you also want Hitler to get another shot at the Allies?
Street Cred Certified
Nov 4 2009, 08:38 PM
QUOTE(Smelodies @ Nov 4 2009, 08:34 PM)

And when boxers go on record, they never go back on what they say.
call me crazy, but i dont think cotto's lying...
indio1
Nov 4 2009, 08:41 PM
used to be my fav fighter. one of my fondest memories in boxing was his fight vs cotto. but now that memory is forever tainted. i am beyond dissapointed. beyond pissed. he won't get banned but probably an appropriate punishment would be to put him back in with mosley, then santos, then williams and two yrs from now, put him in with a comebacking kirkland
prodigious1
Nov 4 2009, 08:46 PM
Mosley destroyed him. Took his soul.
DetroitMex
Nov 4 2009, 08:51 PM
QUOTE(leee @ Nov 4 2009, 10:25 PM)

lol, the WBC would have just suspended him and let him fight wars in Africa for a year. Dude, stop making me like your posts!
Smelodies would have been like.........well he put up a good fight when he blitzkrieg Europe and we don't really know if he was cheating so I want to see it again.
It happens.
BaldBull
Nov 4 2009, 09:08 PM
QUOTE(DetroitMex @ Nov 4 2009, 09:20 PM)

Do you also want Hitler to get another shot at the Allies?
underrated post.
Banned or not, Marg is done as a meaningful fighter.
perfectjet
Nov 4 2009, 09:22 PM
QUOTE(RODEMEYER @ Nov 5 2009, 03:03 PM)

what level of cheating are we talking about?
judges, refs, commissions, where do you stop?
sanc bodies...can we just ban all them for life too lol
CrazyPig
Nov 4 2009, 10:04 PM
QUOTE(CommanderVander @ Nov 4 2009, 02:53 PM)

Unfortunately I think Margarito's actions after the fight and the court ruling speak just as loudly if not louder than his cheating.
I used to be a huge fan of his, when he fought Cotto, I was in Mexico and couldn't see the fight, but I had my friends texting me every 30 seconds with updates, I got a huge bill, but it was cool. I couldn't wait to come back to the states to watch the fight. I was very happy for him.
I don't buy he didn't know about the wraps, even though a part of me hoped he indeed didn't know.
A few months after the wrap incident, there was a charity event I think where many Hispanic stars/athletes played a game of soccer, I can't recollect for what or for whom, but they showed a clip of Margarito putting his cleats on on TV. Margarito was jokingly asking if anyone wanted to check his cleats to make sure they weren't loaded, in my opinion, that was in very poor taste. You'd think he'd take the incident-accusations-allegations-punishment a little more serious. That just gave me a different, or more appropriately, a better insight on who Margarito is.
Should he be banned for life? I'm going to say yes.
tibanglander
Nov 5 2009, 05:09 AM
margarito who?
he's dead to me
stankor
Nov 5 2009, 07:36 AM
I say ban him for life & change all his W's to NC's. I will never know for sure, but it just doesn't make sense that he would cheat against Mosley but not against Cotto, especially considering how bad Mosley looked prior to his KO of Chester Cheato. He was losing to a shot Mayorga before the KO for gods sake!!
DetroitMex
Nov 5 2009, 07:51 AM
QUOTE(stankor @ Nov 5 2009, 09:36 AM)

I say ban him for life & change all his W's to NC's. I will never know for sure, but it just doesn't make sense that he would cheat against Mosley but not against Cotto, especially considering how bad Mosley looked prior to his KO of Chester Cheato. He was losing to a shot Mayorga before the KO for gods sake!!
Maybe he just thought he needed help since Mosley might cheat vs. him.
dyls
Nov 5 2009, 08:05 AM
A lifetime ban sends the right message about this type of cheating.
Pernell_Fan
Nov 5 2009, 08:44 AM
Margs didn't have much boxing skill to begin with.
To me he was just a dude that could walk through punches without seeming to be phased and could "hit" hard as hell.
Mosley, P WIll, and Cotto outboxed Margs with ease.
I don't care if Margs isn't banned b/c he won't beat another top welter or Jr middleweight again or have a shot against one.
stankor
Nov 5 2009, 07:10 PM
QUOTE(DetroitMex @ Nov 5 2009, 11:51 AM)

Maybe he just thought he needed help since Mosley might cheat vs. him.
Fair enough, I'm a big Mosley fan & I'll admit that if it were any other fighter I would hold the whole steriod thing against them more. But I think there is a difference between giving yourself a debatable slight edge w/ roids vs. bringing what I consider a weapon into the ring.
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