Because mine are that it's kinda fucked up.

Both promoters dropped the ball BADLY the first three times. They had three chances to promote the matchup correctly and get these guys some money for killing themselves in front of us and plain didn't. They couldn't even be bothered to get t-shirts made. The souvenir shirt I have for the third fight was a $10 shirt I got in the parking lot.

So after both guys are already clearly showing wear from their three epic fights, they're gonna put em in there together again? But why?

I like both fighters, but I just have to ask, no matter which guy wins, does it change anything about the series? No. Why put both guys' bodies through that again? I'd be shocked if either guy made over $1 million, so why?

And fuck Gary Shaw.

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Here's the blurb from FightNews:

If they get paid I am for it. Its a big fight for sure and I am sure if GBP really promote this as its the first big fight of next year, then it will do well. I think they could have benefited more from a co-feature or by staying a little more active though since its been a while since they fought.

It may be the biggest money fight that that could possibly be made for both of these fighters. I don't think Vic would generate more money for Izzy than Rafa would.

They're grown men. They understand the profession they have chosen. Let em fight.

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=23182

Its not even close to getting made. For one there is a money dispute and two, Marquez thinks he's a free agent but Shaw says he's still under contract.

I hope it gets made but both fighters have to understand that their epic rubbermatch was almost 2 years ago and their returns to the ring shows they are both past their best. I hope it gets made so both can make a good payday. I don't know if HBO will be willing to pick up the tab tho.

Should've been a good payday from the rematch on, but Shaw was busy sucking Kimbo Slice's dick and romancing CBS.

Unless they're willing to pay both guys VERY well, there's no point.

It's the highest profile fight either can get; if they are going to continue to fight, it's better they fight each other than a J.M. Lopez or Gamboa.

I don't think they should make a 4th fight. I rather see these guys take on other fighters. As a fan, I've seen too much of them fighting each other and not enough of other fighters. It's time for something fresh.

neither of those guys are the same....i think they should just leave it as a great trilogy...i think maybe both should call it a day...

I need to see one or two more fights from them to see where they are exactly, but as of now, I have a strong suspiscion they are spent. If that is indeed the case, there won't be any big money fights for them in the future, so fighting each other to set themselves up financialy wouldn't be such a bad idea. Only if the money is right, I agree with this fight. If anyone wants to make it happen, he better pay these two warriors well(at least $2m to $3m each, perhaps). However, I wonder if this kind of money is feasible.

This is the best way for both of them to go out, I think.
If you match either guy against a Gamboa or a JuanMa they are going to get stopped badly because they are just too badly spent. Put them against each other and you have a competitive fight that I don't know who you would favor at this point. Really, this is the way these guys' careers hafta end.

I'd rather not see it, but if they are going to fight on, this fight makes the most sense.

If both men have made the choice to continue (and to the best of my knowledge it is there choice to enter the ring) this is the fight that nets them the most money for the least pain (scary as it is.)

Its easy for us to say these two shouldn't fight, as we see boxing as a noble battle between to warriors, but boxing is first and foremost a job. I doubt either fighter made enough based on the first 3 fights to be set for life.

Not feeling it mainly because there really isnt any reason for it and no one clamoring for a fourth go around. On top of that it doesnt do anything for either fighter if they plan on keeping on

They should have probably retired after the third fight but both decided to keep going. I don't think people will remember them for their recent tune-up fights if they were to hang them up now, but I think that neither of them want that bad taste left in their mouth of looking bad against two fighters they would have ran through in minutes in their primes. If they go against each other and it is competitive, not only will they make the most money available to them but they will be remembered in a better light than if they retired right now. I just hope that if this fight pushes through its the last time they step in the ring, I like both guys too much to want to see them put themselves at risk against a Gamboa or a Lopez.

The way I look at this is, remember Corrales-Castillo? After they got through demolishing each other NEITHER guy was the same and their legacies were hurt a bit by fighting on. Corrales lost every fight after the first battle and Castillo did not fare much better. If they would have fought that third time it would have been the perfect spot to hang them up at but Castillo fucked it up by coming in heavy.

To be fair to Rafa, I think we need to see him in the ring again before we say he's a spent bullet based on the Mendoza fight. It went what? 8 minutes? He didn't look that bad. Just a bit rusty and off the pace.

It didn't last long but his timing was off and he was much slower than he usually is. I guess that could be because of ring rust, though.

I'm kind of rooting against it. First off, and most important, I don't think these two's bodies should go through another war against the other. And secondly, I feel like it's over. The Izzy/Raffy story has been told. And it had an actual great ending with a last second KD being the difference between three of the most vicious fights we've ever seen. Stamp "Fin" at the end. It was a masterpiece. Don't fuck with it.

Vasquez is a shell...BAD SHELL of himself. Marquez is not near his top form but he's viable. I have no problem with them fighting each other (GUCK FAIRY SHAW) but both need to wrap it up. Vasquez can win, take a shitload of punishment and be more hurt than if Marquez loses.

One and done for both but especially if it's Izzy.

I really like both of these kids.

GBP and GSP both fucked these kids.

If these two warriors want it, I'm all about it. War Raffy!

I don't get the not wanting it for their safety. If neither man is retiring, they are going to get into wars anyway. They may as well cash the biggest check they can get for spilling their blood. If everyone is so sure they are both past it, a fight against a young lion would turn out much worse.

My thoughts exactly. It's a perfect trilogy already. Odds are the 4th will be more sad than awesome.

I'm for it.

I think they'll get hurt a lot less fighting each other than they will fighting against the other top dogs in the division.

whats already been said. These guys deserved more for what they gave us than they got, and so did we FRankly. Vazquez-Marquez 3 is easliy the best live fight i've attended and All I have to show for it is a dog eared ticket stub...

piss poor promotions for this EPIC trilogy. I'm not sure either guy can really do to the other what they've already done in three fights already, nor if either man withstand it for that matter. I'm glad they are fighting each other and not a young hungry gun that will put it on them.

Especially if they get a GREAT promotion, and paid well for a 4th, then so be it. I hope neither guys takes another sustained beating. These guys are forever joined at the hip for the punishment they dealt n received in three bouts, it's only fitting they finish off their careers against each other.

A scary thought is that if Rafa wins - he has to be the favourite at this point - then it's 2-2 which begs for a fifth fight...

As it stands the Vazquez-Marquez talks are off.

No disrespect meant, Frankie. I just think it's unfair for both fighters to have to face each other FOUR times in order to get paid correctly. They both give us a career of generally-exciting fights and then they get told that the only way for them to get a good payday is to fight one another again?

That's like if you were a contractor and you had to do a job four times to get paid what you deserve, and not only did you do the job right the first THREE times, but you did the job better than almost anyone else in the world. And on top of that, doing the job the first three times left you with a gimp in your leg and you have no medical insurance.

Meanwhile Gary Shaw made enough money off the matchups to buy a new Porsche AND a new Hummer.

If everyone else is ok with that, cool. But I'm not.

I agree with you. But you don't know how hard it is for guys around Vazquez and Marquez weight classes to get the money they do deserve. There are many issues that prevent it. Sometimes Networks and sometimes Promoters. Now the economy. It's an uphill battle.

It really is unfair for the lighter weight guys in general. Not just Vazquez or Marquez. The only way things can change is if the fans show the support.

But, I agree with you. I can name a number of "heavier guys" that make more money than a Vazquez or Marquez. But are not worthy of it.

Whether your a fan of Vazquez or Marquez... I think everyone would agree these guys deserve a huge pay day.

They deserve billions, my broke ass would send them both $100 out of respect. I'm a massive Raffa fan, but became an Izzy fan as well through the wars.

Sucks. These guys should've retired off that trilogy. If anyone has a pay day coming, its these two. I hope they can pull in a couple more before they call it quits, cause its looks like they have 1 or 2 left in 'em.

it sucks, but i dont see any bigger payday for these two unless its w/ each other

and honestly, to be frank, i dont think either has too many fights left, so its "cash out" time.

Only if there is a way to get them a million each do I support it.