I think pac because of his work rate. He would keep pbf working every minute of every round. Shane is the more powerful fighter but he tends to take more breaks during a fight than pac, and those breaks will allow pbf to land that beautiful jab to the belly often.

Cotto.

Both are better than what he's given us in years.

COTTO!!!!DAMN IT!!!!!

He got his tune up so as long as it's any of the three mentioned, I'm good with anyone of them though I feel Pac is custom made but whatever.

Threat? Who cares. Just fight a diamond weight or welter and I'm cool.

Mosely, and not just cuz his name is Sugar!

While Shane isn't quite as quick as PBF, he is quick enough and has a distinct strength advantage, IMO. While Manny is great, Shane is a naturally bigger man and is at least as quick. Sugar could do bad things working to Floyd's body.

I don't worry too much about SSM taking breaks because PBF likes to take them too. While I have all the respect in the world for Manny, Shane is the bigger threat, IMO.

you mean pac is custom made to get his ass beat, right? I think money KO's him..

Styles-wise, Pac is just awkward. PBF seemed quite uncomfortable against Judah, who was lefty and quick. He had touble dealing with Judah's short right early in the fight(of course, he made good adjustment and won in the end). I guess that gives Manny some hope because he is a very awkward lefty to deal with, and he's as fast of even fster than Judah, and he now has a beautiful short right that is hard to see for the orthodox stance. However, I think PBF has size, strength and extremely good technique to overcome Pacquiao. Might have some trouble early on, but I can see PBF countering Pac effectively in the later half of the fight to win by decision.

Mosely is bigger and stronger than Money and fast, but I don't know if he can penetrate Money May's tight defense. I think the key will be how to impose his physical advantage and wear PBF down. PBF always uses his forearm to keep the opposition from getting range on him, but I think Mosley will not allow that. Mosley should make this fight a physical one. Also, he needs to go downstairs consistently and pound on that body of Floyd. He could give away early advantage but he should make PBF tired and try and dominate him in the latter stage of the fight. Easier said than done, I guess, but what else could the sugar man do to win? He'd better make this one a brawl and tire PBF, if that's possible.

BTW, to answer the original question, I guess SSM might be a tad more difficult to PBF.

NEITHER

Pac is too small and Sugar Shane is nothing more than SHamba Mitchell.

The haters will say it so why not get it out in the open

The biggest threat to PBF is PWILL

Both are threats, but Pac because of his "herky-jerky" left handed style.

Paul Williams! Why won't Floyd call out Paul Williams instead of consistently calling out the smaller fighters??

wow comparing mosley to shambra mitchell has to be one of the dumbest statements i've ever read.

At 147 it's Shane.

He's a middleweight now. I agree three years ago but that was then.


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Pac. I don't want to see Money taking advantage of that old fella. But if it makes dollars, it makes sense.

Shane if he hasn't gotten old overnight. His power will make PBF wilt.

Shane all the way!

That's a funny post.

Floyd needs to stop calling out smaller fighters and go after the guys in his own weight class 2 weights above his weight class!

Sugar.

Shane. Pac is the bigger event, but not much of a threat to PBF.

Shane would never get off hard shots, but his size gives him an advantage over Pac. Floyd will make Pac look foolish at times.

Shane loses a frustrating fight and Pac gets his ass kicked by Money May (think a better, bigger, stronger JMM).

Cotto, Clottey, Marg, And Williams all beat Money May.

Between those two options, Shane is the bigger "threat", but Floyd beats both of them comfortably. I think he'll make much easier work of Pacquiao - he'll probably have a better/more impressive night than he did with Marquez because of Pac's aggressive style, playing into Floyd's counter punch game (which is great for him since it's the fight everyone wants to see, and beating Pac's ass will definitely cement him as legendary in the eyes of the general public) Floyd will never fight Shane though... and it's not because he's "scared" of him, he's just trying to freak the system and keep himself marketable. It's not just a sport, it's a BUSINESS. The guy's nickname is "Money" for crying out loud. It wont make dollars so it doesn't make sense. Shane's old news. Let's be real about it. Dude hasn't fought in how long?... and why? He is a GREAT fighter... a true fighter. He doesn't back down, and he's definitely a HOFer, but he's definitely not what he was before (naturally due to aging and with his style he's taken plenty o' punishment through the years). He might fight Shane after he takes care of Pac and/or Cotto, but I don't see it happening either way. As far as the other welterweights are concerned: Cotto wont beat Floyd... he's too slow. Not saying that Cotto isn't ill... cuz he is. But Floyd's defense and speed will prove too much for Cotto. Easy UD victory for Floyd. Clottey? PLEASE, I don't even want to see that fight. It'd be the most boring fight in the history of boxing. Margarito might have given him trouble before... but Floyd would just Floyderize (pot shot and move outta harm's way) and stink it out to a UD. I am also of the opinion that Paul Williams would have beat Floyd because of his ridiculous rate of activity... but I don't even consider him a welter weight anymore, so I don't put him on the list. Basically, I don't see any big-name welterweight beating Floyd. He's just THAT good. A defensive genius with excellent punch accuracy. For the record, the ONLY reason I want to see Floyd fight Pacman is because Pacquiao is overrated and I don't understand how people put him on this pedestal like he's one of the best boxers. PLEASE... the dude is an aggressive fighter, which is entertaining... but his skill set is nowhere near Floyd's. Mayweather is in a win-win situation, cuz whoever wins the fight in November - he knows he can beat. I'm sure everything'll be fixed so we see Pac and Floyd go at it next year - so let's just sit back and enjoy. Pac/Floyd will be the biggest boxing event ever. Believe that.

Floyd is untouchable so long as his managers keep being so selective about his opposition.

If he fights them all in one night I like Williams chances, assuming he gets to fight PBF last.

edit: I know "styles make fights" but I just saw Mosely kick Margarito's ass. In fact, Moselyu is rated higher than all those guys at welterweight. Just seems strange to say Money beats Mosely but loses to these other guys. It almost comes off as you are saying Mayweather beats Mosely and Pac because you know he may fight them next. But going to say he loses to all those other guys because he probably isn't fighting them next.

Maybe I'm wrong.

Cotto has fought on even terms with Clottey and Shane
Clottey and Marg fought on even terms
Marg fought on near even terms with P Will
Marg spanked Cotto
Shane spanked Marg

Shane is PERCEIVED to be the man at 147, a perception I share. But I can see how one would argue a case for any of the above to win or lose to PBF.

P Will should not be in conversations regarding Welters anymore, and Manny's an unknown until after he fights an elite Welter, Nov 17. In a way, Floyd is too.

I can see making a case of any of those guys beating Mayweather.

But to state that EVERYONE would beat Mayweather, with the exception of whom Mayweather is going to probably fight next is just ridiculous.

It's just someone trying to push an agenda. But whatever.

Does it really require an agenda to say that some of the top welters might beat Floyd but that Soto will not?

Pac.

Shane has slowed down enough and is always on offense. Floyd will fight he most careful fight of his life and win it with wheels and straight right counters.

Manny is just as fast, or faster. Limitless energy, good power... southpaw. I think being a southpaw will fuck with Mayweather's natural defensive maneuvers.

Fine with either fight.

Manny is fast, Money is blinding fast. Being southpaw will not effect May. People kill me with that Judah gave May problems early in the fight stuff. May dropped the first three rounds on purpose. Judah is a front runner and May let him front run. Simple.

Soto?

Maybe I didn't get your comparison.

What cbfalcon is trying to say is that Smokin' Joe conveniently left off Shane (who beat Margarito) but is including Margarito in the list that can beat Floyd.

If Cotto beats Pacquiao (ha!) I'm sure his tune will change and he'll drop him from his list of possible opponents that would beat Floyd. Just a hunch.

This.

Ignore the fact that Pac or Mosely would probably be favored over Cotto, Clottey, and Marg right now.

I am speculating that Smokin Joe looked at the guys Mayweather was likely to fight next and said "Mayweather will beat those guys, but he is avoiding and would lose to every other top fighter".

Maybe I am wrong. But that's how it looks.

Neither. It will take a long rangy guy like williams to beat floyd, unless floyd all of a sudden lost his foot speed like roy did. If i had to pick one id say Cotto because he can box and punch.

I dont think shane has the legs to chase down a boxer like all night, cotto was able to out box him i dont see why floyd couldnt. Shane looked alot younger in there with margarito because Margarito came straight to him all night.

Manny is too easy to time coming in he bounces around alot and you know when he stops he's going to jump in and throw. Thats why marquez was able to handle manny like he did.

Floyd had problems with Zab because he's quick and Zabs feet were almost always set so he can punch with floyd. A guy with Paul williams body type would force floyd to fight an inside fight

Cotto did it with power, he had Shane constantly thinking about what Cotto was going to throw - I think that helped stem Shane's output big time. He had Shane's face swollen and puffy at the end. It's a completely and utterly different fight, Floyd would never stand his ground the way Cotto did.

Mayweather's power will also make Mosley pause, in fact he'll pause more than you might guess, because while Cotto has the heavier hands Mayweather's are faster (that compensates for the lighter fists).

But Shane looks the bigger threat, he has the sheer strength and power to rattle Floyd's tight defense.

I also say Shane is a bigger threat because of size

At 147 Shane may try to apply pressure to Floyd and then hold like he did vs Margs. Shane fought a very smart fight vs Margs early on by applying a body attack and then holding so Margs couldn't get off.

Fighters like Hatton couldn't get inside against Floyd because he's too smart and knows how to use the shoulder roll.

I think Shane may be the only one that can apply smart pressure vs. Floyd and has the best chance of winning a decision over Floyd.

Pac? No way, not at any weight above 144. Floyd will pick him apart and probably stop him with wicked counters all night.

Shane.

I'll add that I'd be happy with either fight. Unless Pac loses to Cotto, in which case, replace Pac with Cotto.

If shane was worried about power he wouldnt have done marg like that, he wouldnt have faught vernon again. If shane believes anything he believes he can knock anybody out. Shane just gets frustrated easily. Nobody including Cotto has done shane like Vernon did him and he got right back in there with him. It was cotto's boxing that bothered shane. Shane has to have his feet set to punch and if youre moving or out jabbing him it throws his rythim off. Floyd will pick him apart unless he gets cought exchanging with shane.

I think floyd learn his lesson from the corley fight about going into that philly with a southpaw. The philly will stop straight right hands and left hooks but it leaves you open for straight left hands. Floyd will use a standard hands up defense and hit manny with straight right hands and check hooks whe manny lunges in with his jab or his left hand.

manny's ko of hatton is highly overated.

Compared to what? He treated a similar version of Hatton like he didn't even belong in the same ring. Hatton had was more effective against Floyd.

I think the Margarito fight is misleading people into believing that Shane has more left than he really does. He's still one of the top welterweights but age is affecting him. He can't let his hands go as freely as he once did and that's gonna really hurt him against a guy like Floyd who's going to be moving. His legs aren't what they used to be and his reflexes are dulled. He presents some danger to Floyd and Money May would deserve credit for the challenge but Marg and Floyd are night and day stylistically. So whether he can effectively pressure a guy like Floyd who won't want to engage is an interesting question. There is no doubt it is a better fight than Floyd has taken in years, regardless of Shane's diminished state.

As to Pacquiao, people are selling him pretty short in my estimation. Still have to see the Cotto fight first because that is clearly no gimme. Floyd might have learned that the shoulder roll is less effective against southpaws in the Corley fight but that doesn't mean that he's nearly as comfortable fighting out of the high guard or against a southpaw. A quick southpaw is going to give him trouble. People keep banking on the idea of Manny being reckless against Floyd but it just isn't going to be the case these days. He's a smarter and more skilled fighter than he was a few years ago. People also act like Floyd doesn't make technical mistakes. Doesn't he leap in with shots also? He doesn't like to initiate offense and if Manny can move in and out and force Floyd to open up (I think he can), it will be interesting. Not buying that Floyd makes it an easy fight at all.

Edit: Will note that Floyd looks a little quicker to me. Granted he was facing a bloated JMM and im sure that had something to do with it but he's carrying the weight better and that might have helped his speed a tad.

The way Hatton jumps in with his chin in the air only amplified manny's power. Hatton never showed he had a good chin to begin with. Correct me if iam wrong but hatton is the only guy i can remember manny one shotting. As far as Floyd being comfortable with a high guard, if floyd has shown you anything its that he's gonna follow the game plan thats gonna win him the fight. Manny's recklesness is gonna show up when he's in there with a guy that he knows hes gonna have to take a lot of chances to get to. When manny fought marquez he had success when jaun tried to bang with him. But when marquez settled down and started boxing he picked manny apart. Floyd likes to jump in but his feet are fast enough to where he can get out without gettin caught. Excellent footwork lets you do things like that, manny doesnt have this.

I guess he planned getting knocked down too lol.
PBF may have a slight edge in speed, however PBF only throws 1-2 punches at a time whereas Manny throws 3,4,5 at a time with his speed and power it could give anyone trouble even PBF.

I thi k Floyd beats both Pac or Shane if the fights are made, but both will be interesting fights that I want to see made.

Pac could surprise Floyd with something, whereas Shane will fight his fight and we will simply see who is better, which will likely come down to who is faster.

Against both you'd have to give the skill advantage to Floyd, with Pac's advantages being speed (possibly) and unpredictability i.e. presenting Floyd with something different to what he's faced before, and with Shane's advantage being his strength and possibly size.

I want Floyd to fight Shane soon, or not at all. I don't want Shane to lose simply because he's too old. And as for Pac, the excitement level for this fight seems to have dropped significantly since Floyd beat Marquez, but I still want to see the fight.

I cant see Manny losing to Floyd for real. I think Manny is too fast too smart and with fredie roach n his corner??? Pac done WHOOPED boxers in they prime unlike mayweather. who did he beat? an old de lay hoya, no chin hatton, and an out of prime Marquez. they were all out they prime except for Hatton. I just dont see it happening. As far as the fight??? I dont see it happening either cuz MONEY is all ABOUT that and not the about the fans and what they want to see.

Floyd would make Paul Williams look like a amateur. That Carlos dude was too fast for PW the first fight. Maywather is the fastest and would probably own PW. Mosley would give the best fight.

Shane. But I don't see anyone beating Floyd, especially Manny whose style is tailor-made for him, not to mention too small.