PWillIsGod
Sep 11 2009, 08:34 PM
I've got Foreman by opponent wets his pants before he gets destroyed KO. Anyone else?
rimquiv
Sep 11 2009, 09:29 PM
QUOTE(PWillIsGod @ Sep 11 2009, 09:34 PM)

I've got Foreman by opponent wets his pants before he gets destroyed KO. Anyone else?
The only other way it could end would be by DQ when Klitschko takes his first look at Foreman and jumps out of the ring and runs to his dressing room while crying in his brother's arms. It would look kind of like this:

They would then jump on their boat to go to Bermuda and pose for a photo that makes them look like they are in gay porn circa early-1960s:
PWillIsGod
Sep 11 2009, 10:57 PM
Man knows his boxing
Wlad likes cock
George makes him go boom
The Sly Fox
Sep 11 2009, 11:49 PM
Could be interesting for the first five or so rounds, after which, I say Foreman gets him outta there. Clean-cut, ten-count KO in the seventh, IMO.
Klitschko's excellent jab & manic holding I suspect he'd do in terror of Foreman's punch would make it frustratingly competitive for a while.
prodigious1
Sep 12 2009, 03:51 AM
Foreman would hurt him bad with his monster jab and then it's over. Don't see it going more than 3.
Dangerdog
Sep 12 2009, 05:30 AM
lol Wlad is better than this thread, but yeah i dont think at any point he could take Foremans shots for a whole fight. Hes used to a nice size advantage over his opponents, against Foreman that is nearly negated. And his pawing jab would be met here with a superior one.
He would probably swell Foreman up some though before George started getting through. This is a fight where we would get to see what kind of legs Wlad has. Nobody really comes straight down the pipe with him like George would (no homo) it would be interesting to see him have to pull his hands back to shield his snotbox. Hes not used to that.
I say Foreman starts thumping his pumpkin hard around 5-6. If Wlad finds his bike he could still decision the Old Ox. But if he stays right in the front yard he gets wobbled and rocked.
SpontaneousFury
Sep 12 2009, 07:47 AM
Foreman did lose to Morrison.
Ruthless Bastard
Sep 12 2009, 07:59 AM
QUOTE(Pickledeggssays @ Sep 12 2009, 10:47 AM)

Foreman did lose to Morrison.
And got busted up badly by Alex Stewart and an otherwise anonymous German cat named after Eddie Murphy's character in Beverly Hills Cop.
But don't let those facts get in the way of the usual analysis. He's a homo because he doesn't father kids out of wedlock or brawl in fights.
Young Wlad would turn Old George's face into something akin to taco meat. How many world class HWs did Old George KO?
Dangerdog
Sep 12 2009, 09:29 AM
I know he could run and win, but i highly doubt he would stand right in front of him and dominate him like he does all his recent opposition.
Shit anyone could run and decision Foreman. He was a lumbering mule, a 40 something year old mountain. George had thumping power. Wlad went down like a house of cards from Sam Peters wild grazing shots, some of them just barely clipped him and his eyes went all Marty Feldman.
I just searched every spot i know looking for the video of it, but all i found was a few clips of Wlad giving Sam heavy hands, anways, i just wanted to show i think Klit being so dominant is more because of his competition than anything. If Sam can send him down hard three times you have to think George could rattle some coconuts loose as well.
Vitali not so much. Esp the way he was moving and boxing in his last few fights. Hes just a far better fighter than his brother.
prodigious1
Sep 12 2009, 10:11 AM
Danger knows what's up. Wlad has become overrated because of the slop that it today's heavyweight division. No doubt, old George had flaws, but he was also tougher than baby Klit could ever dream of being, and no one can ever deny that. Another thing they have to accept is that he can't take a punch. That's kinda big.
This is no powerless midget or some alphabet boy with no skill. This is a mean motherfucker with heavy hands, rock solid chin and a will to win that is truly special.
Klit doesn't have the mobility or the chin or the defense to pull this off. George's jab would absolutely bust his mouth. Then a club to the head is the beginning of the end. All that nervous energy and those massive fists spell another KO loss.
Styles make fights. This is not a good one for Wladina.
Ruthless Bastard
Sep 12 2009, 10:28 AM
QUOTE(prodigious1 @ Sep 12 2009, 01:11 PM)

Danger knows what's up. Wlad has become overrated because of the slop that it today's heavyweight division. No doubt, old George had flaws, but he was also tougher than baby Klit could ever dream of being, and no one can ever deny that. Another thing they have to accept is that he can't take a punch. That's kinda big.
This is no powerless midget or some alphabet boy with no skill. This is a mean motherfucker with heavy hands, rock solid chin and a will to win that is truly special.
Klit doesn't have the mobility or the chin or the defense to pull this off. George's jab would absolutely bust his mouth. Then a club to the head is the beginning of the end. All that nervous energy and those massive fists spell another KO loss.
Styles make fights. This is not a good one for Wladina.
How would you have described Morrison's style before their fight?
You've made some awesome picks but don't make the mistake of thinking these fighters are all cookbook recipes you can mix and match for analysis. And Wlad may be underrated because of the slop of this division. All he can fight are the guys in front of him and he executes those cats.
My guess is Old Foreman may have declined the Wlad fight. He knew what types of cats he could beat. If Axel Foley could beat his ass, Wlad would've made the crowd uneasy at the type of damage he did to Old George's face. You would've got the Wlad fight right after the Axel rematch...
Dangerdog
Sep 12 2009, 10:30 AM
A more telling question would be who has Wlad fought that could crack, where he didnt get wobbled?
Brock-cant punch
Chagaev- did absolutely nothing, also outsized
The ghost of Rahman- lolz
Toney Thompson- gave a good account of himself but not a puncher by any means
The ghost of Byrd- lolz again
Ray Austin - gimme a break dude was looking for a place to fall
vs
Corrie Sanders - heavy mitts
Lamon B- i concede it was more Wlad getting gassed, but he still got rocked a little and it showed
Sam Peter- woops, Wlad hits the dirt three times
Im just saying. Wlad would have to fight really, really skittish and hold a lot. Which he is certainly capable of.
prodigious1
Sep 12 2009, 10:37 AM
Ruth- the guys who beat George did it mostly with hit and run tactics. Something we've never seen from Wlad.
PWillIsGod
Sep 12 2009, 11:00 AM
wlad isn't capable of moving like that and George was way too strong for his holding to be effective. No doubt Wlad would land some eye opening stuff, but George would laugh at it and one shot is all it would take.
Morrison was at a full sprint and truth be told, he is probably better than Wlad. Certainly has a better resume. I'm still waiting for Wlad to have a significant victory.
SpontaneousFury
Sep 12 2009, 12:12 PM
I certainly don't think that George would laugh at Wlad's punches but I think he was durable enough to take a lot of it. Still Wlad's size and offensive ability is a tough task. I don't think much of Old George, he really wasn't that good. He could win this by landing something vicious but he most certainly could lose this one and I might pick him to.
Morrison is better than Wlad at what?
PorkChopXprz
Sep 12 2009, 12:17 PM
To pick Wlad in this fight is to assume he will never get hit. Wlad doesn't fight like the guys that beat old Foreman, who threw combinations and ran for the hills. Wlad plants his feet and dares you to get past his jab, which would let him land solidly on George for while, but eventually George either A: walks through the jab, B: starts landing his own jab, or C: lands something hard from the outside ala Peter. All three are likely and all three spell defeat for Klitschko. Lamon Brwester, DeVarryl Williamson, Sam Peter, and Tony Thompson all landed on Wlad at times. Foreman will land.
PWillIsGod
Sep 12 2009, 12:19 PM
QUOTE(Pickledeggssays @ Sep 12 2009, 08:12 PM)

I certainly don't think that George would laugh at Wlad's punches but I think he was durable enough to take a lot of it. Still Wlad's size and offensive ability is a tough task. I don't think much of Old George, he really wasn't that good. He could win this by landing something vicious but he most certainly could lose this one and I might pick him to.
Morrison is better than Wlad at what?
Morrison would be a 50/50 fight with Wlad, somebody would be getting KTFO and my guess is it would be Wlad.
Dangerdog
Sep 13 2009, 05:11 AM
I see where you would think Tommy might do something becuase he threw mustard on that left, but i dont see Morrisons chin holding up to Wlad at all.
amck73
Sep 13 2009, 08:17 AM
Wlad boxes carefully to a U/D. He wold be strong enough to last in their with old Foreman and has enough pop to keep George at bay.
Dangerdog
Sep 13 2009, 09:28 AM
People keeping George at bay never really worked. My memory may be a bit foggy but who ever 'kept him at bay'?
Alex Stewart was more of a case of the old man spending all the gas in the tank at once, a foolish error for sure, but Stewart didnt keep him at bay. Foreman punched himself out (putting Stewart down twice) and took the beating afterwards. Also, and im aware that this is reaching a bit, but the Stewart fight George came in at 258 which was fat even by his standards. After Morrison he kinda took stock of this and came in for Moorer at 250. And he was able to weather the storm so to speak a little better.
Even Holyfield didnt really back Foreman off and he hit him with some pretty good salvos. Foreman just kept lumbering forwards.
I can see where anyone would pick Wlad here, but to me this is more about Wlads shortcomings than Foremans. Its kinda telling that nearly everyone with heavy hands has shook the guy.
Lennox didnt have the most granite of jaws either and i think he gets charged with homicide he beats on George so bad. Wlad just gets wobbled by guys with stone mitts.
When you take in his entire body of work it becomes more apparent. Old fat Foreman is one of my favorite fighters but i never make him out to be the monster he was when he was younger. Here though i think he finds another Moorer, if he eats the beating early and lands just a little he shakes Wlad up late. Wlads foil isnt speed or athleticism. Its heavy mitts. Sam had nothing, no technique, no idea what to do when Wlad held him, and he still managed to put the dude down three times. Foreman would be to strong to hold, hands to heavy to absorb all night.
All he can do is box and backpedal and hope to ruin Foremans face enough to get the fight stopped before something connects that sends him wide eyed all over the place.
prodigious1
Sep 13 2009, 09:45 AM
12 rounds is too long for Wlad.
Hell, 6 rounds is too long.
No hate or anything... Wlad cannot take a Foreman jab without buckling. When that old tank is coming right at him, little bro will shit 'em.
I cannot even dream up any other scenario than Foreman by KO.
Integrital
Sep 13 2009, 11:14 AM
Wlad by stoppage on cuts and/or swelling around the 9th.
loadedgloves
Sep 25 2009, 12:48 AM
Is everyone on this forum on crack when it comes to "Old Foreman?" Wlad 1-2s him to death and wins a UD or late TKO.
RODEMEYER
Sep 25 2009, 07:46 AM
lights up the pipe
physically Wlad wins this one
but
as Yogi would say
90% is mental the other half is physical
Wlad should win
I just think when he stands accross the ring from a certfiable killer
he'll have a meltdown
he'll panic
start breathing heavy
expend a shitload of energy
land punches
cause some damage
freak out all over again when Big George is still there
get hit with a clubbing shot
go down
get up
panic some more
try to flee
gets clubbed again
Vitali stops fight
I think some people mix up the brothers
and insert big bro's toughness
with Wlad's physical abilities
he barely survived Sam Peter
for gosh darned sakes
The Sly Fox
Sep 25 2009, 01:29 PM
Very plausible, Rod.
rimquiv
Sep 25 2009, 03:17 PM
QUOTE(loadedgloves @ Sep 25 2009, 01:48 AM)

Is everyone on this forum on crack when it comes to "Old Foreman?" Wlad 1-2s him to death and wins a UD or late TKO.
Wlad wouldn't have reach on him to just 1-2 him all night. George has himself some long fucking arms.
BaldBull
Sep 25 2009, 05:37 PM
Wlad just doesn't have the makeup to deal with a rock like George. Fucking Sam Peter had him shitting bricks, without even landing flush for much of the round.
This is the scenario that I see. Wlad hits him with two jabs, Old George moves forward, and closes distance. He hits George with his jackhammer straight right, George pauses for a second, pushes him back and moves forward. Wlad shits himself, and tries to grab, but George is big and still strong as a fucking ox, so he doesn't get easily tied up. He starts clubbing Wlad with one shot at a time, eventually, Klit gets subdued.
blackartsviper
Sep 25 2009, 08:27 PM
Sad thing is that age 44 Foreman was a better fighter than Peter was when he fought Wlad a few years ago. The only question I have is if Wlad can stay away from Foreman's ultra-slow-fat-man punches for a full twelve rounds. But Wlad doesn't have that kind of stamina, and even at his advanced age George still had amazing punching power. He scored his most impressive KOs in his comeback. So I slightly favor Foreman via KO.
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