HERE'S HIS VID

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVUWLl_AJfs


AND MY VID

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z4yRPTRALs

Dana White is a bigger attention whore than Floyd. I wish he wouldve signed that fight with Tito just so i could watch his snotbox get busted

But unfortunately, he's right.
Its way better to be MMA fan then a boxing fan, cause they always have good fightcard, they put up the fights you want to see, they have a really good reality show with top class fighters (the contender do suck), and their fighers fight as often as they can. With all that in their favour, it doesnt matter if MMA is not as exciting as Boxing, they'll attract more fans then boxing can.
Hopefully this will force some changes into boxing, making it a more fan friendly sport, but at the moment, boxing is far behind.

yawn

Machida "runs" more than Floyd. Mayweather/Pacquiao happens before Fedor/Lesnar. So there.

Guess you didn't see Machida's last two fights. Machida is nowhere near as boring as Mayweather.

I agree about Fedor/Lesnar.

Does anybody care what Dana White says? The guy ranks right behind Bob Arum and Don King for credibility. He says crazy shit to get people talking about the UFC. It succeeded because we are discussing his company.

Dana is a girl's name.

how is he right....it's fucken rare when there is a great mma fight, it's usually one guy just dominating another.....that'll be like us watching floyd vs baldo every damn month....

boxing is always competetive and it's rare when there is one night of pure domination on a boxing card......




actually, i was just backing up boxing and juan manuel marquez...i took it as disrespect what he said about our great fighters.....i can only imagine all his robotic followers "yead dude, he's fucken right, fuck boxing UFC FOR LIFE"

i wasn't gonna let that one slide....

Who exactly again is calling for Franklin vs Belfort? LOL Dana is an idiot. lol

Another thing that might be making nervous is that MMA gyms all over are starting to train boxing more and more. The mma guys are finding boxing much more interesting then any other discipline because lets face it...All fights start on the feet and most mma guys are slightly above average with their hand striking.

Dana is saturating us with a PPV every month and most of the time it consists of made up champions from the Spike show. He's not paying his fighters and the fights are mostly either snoozers or quick single punch KO's.

Dana is milking his cow for all it's worth. He's hating on boxing because he couldn't make it in the sport. The only time i ever pulled for Tito is when he and Dana were supposed to lace up.

MMA is interesting because people like to see street brawls. I will watch MMA or UFC occasionally but it will never be great as boxing. Boxing is like art, poetry, the sweet science. MMA is like watching a bar fight or a street brawl. I can only tune in my attention for about 10 minutes watching UFC which is typically how much all the fights combined last.

I will say that I wish boxing wasn't so corrupt, it brings the sport down. Once the UFC fighters get fed up with their pay you will see more corruption in their sport as well.

Bingo, sort of.


Dana has everything in the UFC firmly under his thumb right now. It wont last forever.



Can you imagine if Arum alone controlled boxing? Dictated EVERY fighters salary? Im sure it would bring a lot of uniformity (is that a word?) to the sport for a brief period, but how long can one man control an entire sport? Its a relatively new sport, the longer it stays around and eventually when more than just Dana has a say in things, more negotations will come into play for every fight, more vultures wanting more money, more stipulations, etc. Its only a matter of time.

Not saying UFC is doomed by any means but his complete control over such a large org cannot last forever.

Im a big boxing fan but I dont know who Juan Manuel Marquez is. Im not too phony.


And I really have alot of respect for you but I just cant remember your name.

I just watched Dana White talking about "what's his name". Don't think he was really trying to crack on boxing. I think it was more to sway people to buy his PPV's vs Floyd/JMM. He knows who Juan Manuel is. He was just trying to front. I disagree this is not a fight where fans want to see. It should be a great fight, intriguing nonetheless. Personally, I don't like watching guys roll on the ground pounding each other or trying to put them in submission holds. Then again I don't really like to watch them on their feet because the guys that like to wrestle or do jijiat-su(sp) are normally not very skilled punchers or strikers.

Dana White always talks shit about boxing, just like Bob Arum always talks shit about MMA. Whenever either one gets on the topic of the "competition", I switch off. It doesn't matter in the long run, and people forget that Dana was a boxing guy to begin with.

I'm gonna say it right now, but a healthy boxing scene helps MMA a lot, and vice versa. Believe it or not, in my case, I was always a casual boxing fan before I started following MMA and became a pretty ardent follower. All that did was make me a harder core boxing fan. MMA helped me discover a deep love for boxing.

What Dana has done with the UFC is incredible. It has far surpassed boxing in popularity. Not sure there's a sport organization more well-run.

I know what you were doing but I wouldn't let him get you worked up. I usually just change the channel or radio station if he is talking.

WARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Freddy!!

Let 'im have it. The guy is a tool anyway.

I'm gonna say it right now, but a healthy boxing scene helps MMA a lot, and vice versa. Believe it or not, in my case, I was always a casual boxing fan before I started following MMA and became a pretty ardent follower. All that did was make me a harder core boxing fan. MMA helped me discover a deep love for boxing.

Not only I am also a Dodger fan but I am with you 100% on your statement.

Boxing vs. UFC thread 106!

We should get along juuuust fine.

The WWE?

Yeah it is. The thing is he didn't re-invent the wheel. He has great marketing, he makes a fuck ton of money ( Not that the fighters do) and puts out a steady stream of competitive fights, and loads the undercards. sound familiar?

Boxing just needs to get back to basics. Start in the trenches. Putting guys like Chavez JR on PPV everytime out is a joke already. charging more than your average UFC event is criminal to boot.

Stuff like the fight night at the Nokia is much needed(and appreciated by the fans), on a regular basis. The other bitch is its tough in Boxing for non LAtino fighters to earn the $$support of the majority. So UFC will start to pick up that talent, as other sports already have.

Personally I just dig combat, So I'll follow and watch both knowing they are just different animals. No biggie.

The first part of this is true. He has great marketing. But that marketing is why you believe that he "puts on a steady stream of competitive fights and loads the undercards".

The drop off of talent from the top few guys in MMA to the next tier is very drastic. Guys get one win in the UFC and all of a sudden you see them 3 or 4 more times. Regardless of if they win. Dana White will keep pounding you with the same losers over and over again while way too many decent fighters sit in the wings and wait.

Dana White will be the UFC's biggest downfall. At least in boxing, you have a lot of crooks battling for the same money. With Dana, if you don't work for him, he will try and blackball you from the sport. UFC will have boxing's problems, and it's sad to say, it's just a matter of time.

I think boxing already has taken it back to basics. Fights away from Vegas, fighters fighting in their home towns, less PPVs (JMM-PPV will only be the 2nd PPV this year), good matchups, free fights, etc. The economy and the UfC surge forced them to finally put out quality fights and not always have a price tag next to it.

The problem boxing is going to face is getting new fans and becoming a mainstream sport again. It didn't really matter before as it never had a direct competitor; or at least one that was strong enough like UFC has become.

The big fights will always attract big numbers (more so than even UFC) but fights like Dawson-Johnson II, Shobox cards, FNF cards like the last one will go unnoticed and under the radar. The big fights have to deliver IMO in order for people to actually follow the sport.

Just my 2 cents.

Well this Super Middleweight Tourny is a good start and very UFC like. We have had very solid match ups for a couple of years now.

What frustrates me is that casual fans listen to that type of shit and agree without thinking. My thoughts are this:
-Floyd sold about as many PPV's against Hatton as he did against Oscar, and probably as much against Pac if they ever fought, so it's not fair to say that Floyd needs Oscar.
-When he says that no one has heard of JMM, he's talking to non boxing fans, the same ones that didn't know who Floyd was until he fought in the WWE. My bro, who doesn't really follow either sport knows who JMM is, but doesn't know who Vitor Belfort is. So I guess Bob Arum could make the same arguement as Dana did.
-Dana says that champs won't fight each other in boxing (which is crap in most cases), but at least we can have a unified champion unlike in MMA. Right now I can tell you Klitschko is the boxing heavyweight champ. Who is the MMA heavyweight champ? Fedor or Lesnor?

love the passion bro

thanks for bringing back the 13th round


he looks like he is doing the lean with it rock with it or some shit

lame. bitch does a fake press conference to trash mayweather and completely disrespects marquez. and floyd is one feeling threaten?

Thing is MMA fans are going to have to wait awhile on that one. For all the talk White says about boxing killing itself with promoters etc. I think he fails to see that sooner or later MMA will fall into the same thing. Think of all the MMA promotions right now UFC, Strikeforce, WEC (if they still exist), etc. Each with their own version of a champion. It's comparable to different boxing promoters and santioning bodies like the WBA, WBC and so forth. As MMA grows in popularity whose to say more promotions won't rise. Their top guys will literally have to wait until their contract expires to face another top guy from a different promotion. Provided of course he signs with that rival promotion. It's almost comparable to pro wrestling in that you'll never see a WWE guy face a TNA guy unless that person jumps ship. In boxing promoters don't always agree but when they do rest assured you'll see the fight shortly. Boxing fans won't have to wait years for a superfight as long as the promoters can agree on something. As far as Fedor and Lesnar go unless Strikeforce goes out of business MMA fans will have to wait a few years.

Exactly what I was saying.

are you EL JEFE ???

what happened to him.....


thanks for the love

you should post your video on sherdog and the underground, might get an interesting shit storm going

Your ordering Chavez jr on ppv arent you?

They have shaken up their approach which will still require some more time to see the effects. It's been a much better year in that regard, but don't kid yourself about 'free fights' you still have to own premium cable to get those. Where as Spike is on the bullshit package and you can still see fights for as close to 'free' as possible.

I understand fans of one sport not being a fan of the other, but I just don't see why some people seem to almost feel obligated to talk shit about the "other" combat sport. On top of that, they're generally talking outta their ass.

Dana White is a douchebag and he should probably shut the fuck up more often than not, but to suggest that MMA (UFC in particular) hasn't damn-near humiliated boxing in terms of promotion, marketing and popularity is just incorrect. It has. Boxing seems to have bridged the gap a bit in the last year or so, but not by much.

Nope. Most are(Granted you get some stinkers too, even if one doesn't appreciate the ground game aspect), and think about why like you said the guys don't get paid shit! Work for a monopolizer employer and especially as newbs strive to collect them fight bonuses and or make statements to keep getting called. The fans reap the benefit of the contests. I thought it was kind of cool hen DLH did the same and offered 'bonus' during the 2nd to last Nokia card.

His business practices could very well could end up biting him in the ass, most of those guys deserve much more than they get IMO, time will tell.

You know what I find very annoying... "UFC is way more like real fighting than boxing." Boxing is a sport, anyone that compares it to real fighting is missing the "sweet science" of it. Boxing is at a calibre that UFC won't see for atleast another 10 years.

Did that make sense?

Oreo-la ate him

i am i love KOchulito, but i am pulling for valdez.

Not at all. Some of the most aesthetically pleasing fights I've ever seen have been MMA fights. For an example, watch Sam Stout vs. Sam Fisher I for starters, and tell me the caliber of that fight isn't scientific. Watching two masters work the ground game is beautiful. Nogueira is an absolute master, he's the guy to watch to get guys interested in the ground game.

We're talking apples and oranges. The skill level of MMA is up there with boxing, in relative terms. They're just even on different terms.

agreed.

yeah, circa 1992.

Shit was a carnival act. Dana/Joe Rogan really can't use that as an angle in a debate, I mean who cares?

We watch now because it IS more organized, weight classes, rules, The competition etc If I want to watch "REAL" fighting(Which sucks) I'll throw on a copy of "Homeboys beatdown vol. 1" Maybe some are fascinated with that aspect, to me its just a sport.

not really. everyone recognizes the UFC as the far superior promotion. Besides a few fighters, Strikeforce doesn't even come close.

There's a reason Affliction folded and so will Strikeforce before they ever get to the level of the UFC. The WBA, WBC and IBF have been around and aren't going anywhere unfortunately.

Good post I must say,but does anyone else see an eerie similarity between MMA right now and Pro Wrestling in the late 90's?

you are him huh.....

indeed bruh

yo, a few weeks ago i wanted to ask you if you knew if anybody recorded the sparring session between my boy josh marks and your boy rashad....over at wild card

The grapling I understand (even though I will expect it to be at a much higher level in 10 years), but that's about it. The rest of it is not even close to the level boxing is at. When you can have a big gorilla like Brock Lesner with very little skill (compared to the boxing heavyweight champ) become the UFC champion after only four fights then you can't tell me that it's at the same calibre as boxing.
I personally would rather watch Mayweather, Winky or Hopkins win by UD than watch a grappling match that results in a UD.

The apples and oranges part I do agree with. They are two completely different sports; it's like comparing baseball and cricket.

Brock was a star NCAA wrestler


let me ask Shad