just read Steve Kim's article on how Arum was pissed about Kim's opinion on the Santos-Foreman fight. Then Arum calls us (maxboxing readers) "Shmucks" for not wanting to see a boring ass Boreman fight, on the Biggest Fight of the Year.

Fuck him! I thought he was an alright guy until now. I guess I'm a schmuck for buying his PPV fights and traveling to see his fighters' fights live.

You know he must have thought that this wasn't going to get back to us...What an asshole!! Fuck boring ass Yuri Boreman!!!!!

Why would you have ever thought he was alright?

Not a big deal since all undercards suck anyway. I'll be at the pit grilling fajitas anyway while this shit is going down. I am surprised HBO didn't pay $2 million for this turd.

lol @ arum

nobody trying to see santos in the first place... lets be serious

in such a crowded 4th quarter

- fmj vs jmm
- mp vs mc
- pw vs kp
- super 6
- cd vs gj

you gotta step it up a bit more than that

i've only been following boxing for the last couple of years..and i hadn't seen him come off as a prick....maybe he has been in the past, but i guessed i missed it.

Good call, Roldy. The guy's a living, breathing contradiction. I'm surprised he even believes his name's Bob Arum.

I like santos, but he needs to matched properly. Never a doubt in my mind that this undercard would suck ass. Bob has delivered plenty of great fights, this main event isn't one of them.

Read my mind

who cares? wasn't like he called us putzes. Now THEN I would be livid.

I am not offended. He can call us schmucks. that is fine. The fact that we do not want to see Yuri frustrates and pisses him off. I would be pissed too in his shoes. Bottom line, the guy is a legend and is the best promoter in my life time. He builds fighters into champions correctly. He has guided the careers of a few stars, and his accomplishments far outweigh the other "top" boxing promoters. So, he had a bad day, I don't care. The man is a hero to the sport.

I don't care what he think about me. I just know I paid $500 to watch a good show, not Yuri Foreman impersonate a rabbit for 12 rounds.

This is terrible news.

Why Arum continues to push Foreman is beyond me. He's a story, so what? The man's fights are unbearable.

If this goes through Arum better come with some serious fire or nevermind going to the fight, I'll skip the PPV as well.

"Mr. Arum, I'm a Maxboxing.com schmuck. I'm your bread and butter because I love this sport and am stupid enough to pay you to watch it. I hate Yuri Foreman. He is a boring fighter. I don't watch his fights. When he is on an undercard I tell my friends and family in the room to go ahead and have a good, long smoke. The only time I'll hit rewind in one of his fights is if he ever gets knocked out. I'll use my DVR to rewind and watch happily as this boring fighter loses. You put him on any card and I turn the channel, or in a pay per view, I go barbeque before the REAL fights happen. I want exciting fights and exciting fighters. Yuri 'Boreman' Foreman is neither exciting or ever in an exciting fight."

Just sent this to contact@toprank.com please feel free to let them know.

Arum is a Jew from Harvard

Foreman-Anthony Thompson was perhaps the worst competitive PPV undercard fight I have ever watched.

Post the reply will ya?

If I get one I will.

During the "buildup" for DLH-Yori Boy, Arum pushed a story about an Aztec witch doctor who made a special potion for Yori Boy to be strong in the ring. Arum claimed to have gone to Mexico and felt something when he drank the shit. Of course he puts the PPV on May 5 too. That tells you about all you need to know about what Arum thinks of boxing fans.

You have to be kidding, right?

A bit rude of Arum to basically say Steve's opinion means shit when he has given TR so much space in his articles.

Headstrong promoter. Who would have thought.

Maybe Bob was lying yesterday, and tomorrow he will tell the truth.

Nope. Sadly I watched that PPV and I remember that. If you search on De La Hoya Campas and potion you'll find a bunch of references to it.

"I was lying yesterday but today I'm telling the truth."

-Bob Arum.

LOL! We're schmucks? Last I checked, none of us ever stacked ODLH undercards with Butterbean and Mia St. John while Don King was doing "Revenge: The Rematches". Last I checked, none of us ever pissed away a contract with the VERSUS network on the likes of Tye Fields when we could've been airing these Pinoy Power PPV cards for free on the channel (thereby possibly exposing unknown fighters WORTH watching to an audience), and none of us ever admitted to the Federal Government to paying Bob Lee 50 grand to rank Axel Schultz in the IBF top ten for his (ripoff) loss to George Foreman.

Who's the schmuck now?

Incidentally, it will be interesting to see how boxing's future will turn out when dinosaurs like Arum, Don King, Jose Suliaman, Gilberto Mendoza kick the bucket in the next five to ten years.

Nice post

I think Boxing will be better off when these dinosaurs finally become extinct.

I think Arum is an excellent promoter and completely agree with Kim's evaluation of Arum that he's one of the greatest of all time. It would be great if Arum was 100% concerned with quality fights, but he has a lot of obligations to fill as a promoter, and that is just the reality. What would be a shame is if there were no one around to call him out on it when Arum doesn't put quality fights first.

That is where Steve comes in. Kim is the p4p best boxing writer today. He really calls them like he sees them and on top of that, his vision is really good. Very rarely do I read one of his opinions and feel he's off base. I like Hauser too, but Hauser is a bit long winded and too sentimental at times plus he can't seem to resist misusing his podium to infuse his unrelated random politics.

Viva Kim!

He should stick to protecting Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. and Juan Manuel Lopez, and let Steve Kim stick to being an honest journalist who still gives a crap about the sport.

LOL, I remember that! Even the ridiculous fuss DLH made about the "potion" containing illegal substances or not. Then at a press conference some of the people there tried it out too. One of the corniest PR stunts I've ever seen to promote a big stage fight/fighter.

Chavez Jr needs the protection and frankly, I don't mind it because there is no point in watching him in with someone good who would just nuke him proving what we already know.

Lopez faced both Ponce De Leon and Penalosa. After he blew them out, it seemed like mismatches. They definitely weren't billed as mismatches going into either bout. Ponce is still #4 in the Ring rankings. I'd love to see Lopez in with Caballero but I don't think there has been a prolonged demand for this fight or reluctance from Lopez to warrant the "protected" tag.

I'd favor Lopez to knock out Caballero myself. Too much volume and power, and Caballero chin hangs out there waiting to be touched. Caballero wouldn't be able to resist exchanging, and we saw just how much fire power Lopez has when he KO'd the caveman, Ponce De Leon.

that would be don king.

bob has stepped up in the last 10 yrs...but over the last 30 or 40....don king is that man.

They were each good at different things. Arum did a better job building stars...King a better job of making big fights into bigger events. Lots of the biggest draws King ever had he poached elsewhere and actually stifled a lot of careers over the years. There were exceptions, but some of his biggest guys (Duran, Ali, Tyson) he didn't build.


BTW...I'll take the 80s-mid-90s Main Events over either. They made stars and consistently great fights.

Those guys were FEARLESS.

They were good but they had to be fearless. The money guys were with other promoters and for their guys to get over, they had take chances. Douglas beating Tyson was HUGE for them.

Lou DiBellas work at HBO has to be commended too. Sure he wasn't a promoter at the time but he pushed for competitive fights mainly in the lower weight classes and because of that we saw the meteoric rise of a lot of today's biggest stars. The only knock on him would be the terrible idea that was KO Nation, and at least out of that we got a couple of decent fights.

Lou was the shit at HBO but his "promoting" since has been pedestrian at best.

Dibella did a good job. The ironic thing is that guys that he has promoted like Sechew Powell and Malignaggi wouldn't have gotten 3rd and 4th chances with him at the HBO helm. Kery Davis' incredible incompetence makes you appreciate Dibella more every day. Not sure if Dibella was great or just great compared to the putos HBO has running the show now.

He saved the lower weight classes to some extent. Prior to the 90s, guys like Sanchez and Gomez could get some ABC or CBS love but that was gone and Forum was going to. If HBO hadn't stepped up with MAB-McKinney who knows if many of the great fights of the 90s ever happen.



They would have had the shot for Holy anyways at Tyson that year if Mike had shown up for Buster. June was the date with the hype being Tyson-Foreman in China after (what's with the China dream...everlasting man). Holy would have won and Main Events wouldn't have struggled with a legitimacy question for the champ.

Dude, beating Douglas was easy money. Legitimacy? Do you think they cared about legitimacy over money and leverage? In retrospect, yeah, Holy probably beats Tyson but I bet you would not have picked Holy over Tyson back then.

Probably not, but beating Tyson for the belt would have meant more money long term by making Foreman even bigger than it was and a Tyson rematch a la 91 even BIGGER than it was six years later. And yes I would have picked Holy. Was already talking Holy smack after Dokes...was betting on Holy when they were supposed to go in 91...and bet on Holy again in 96.

I believe you since I picked Douglas over Tyson.

LOL...I didn't pick that one. I had people think I was prank calling when they couldn't be bothered to watch live with me and the fam. Trust me on Holy though...I was as Holy crazy as Mark or Prod.

Still am.

DiBella kicked ass in Rocky.

I wasn't crazy about that movie, but I was impressed by the level of detail as far as their portrayal of the boxing world. They even had real-life judges (or at least they used their names) for the fight between Rock and Dixon.

If you think GBP has any sort of leg-up or even just solid foothold NOW...

Man always someone here gotta defend JuanMa (Ironically I'm a huge fan of the guy myself), but he's being protected, and not just against mandatories, I mean they are handpicking easy opponents for him for these latin fury's and I think for what?

Oh yeah to set up a fight with a guy who has less then 20 fights and interim belt, is the Gamboa fight that bad (no not at all) my beef is dude aint even the champ of his weight (only an interim), neither guy is, nobody beat Izzy to claim that but he moved up, so now Rafa is the champ of that weight, JuanMa aint fought either guy, there's another champ in Japan who just knocked out Johnny Gonzalez in Mexico too!, you think JuanMa would fight him?

Lets not get into Caberello who has two belts, and if you think Mathebula beat him then why does'nt JuanMa fight him instead of Mtagwa so he can make Cabellero look worse for not beating him clearly.


If those are too many scenerios why in the world won't JuanMa move up and fight a full titlist like Lueveno (they have the same promoter) or Chris John after he beats Rocky again in a rematch (yes It was a draw in the first fight but Chris would have won in any other state), so tell me if JuanMa is'nt being taken care of a bit, when all these other guys are available by next year and some are even willing to fight him in Puerto Rico, thats all I want to know.