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keithzilla
found it intriguing, in my opinion they are/were on the same level skill wise, who wins?
antoniochamp
G Man wins this one

I think he over powers Kessler
Salvy_Mic
G-Man had the sort of bloodlust that Kessler has never seen in his entire career, coupled with skills, power, toughness, and athleticism. McClellan knocks him out in 9.
amck73
G-Man within 3 rounds. He had no time to feel his opponent out. I`m so sad we never got to see more of him after the Benn fight. He was a real mean killer.
K X P
Interesting. TO me Kessler is a huge question mark. I can't say what would happen because I haven't seen him fight enough. He does seem like he physically has the tools to keep G-Man at bay and seems to fight controlled and measured which is good but I have to go with G-Man.

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luisio
mcclellan ko2...if calzaghe hurt kessler with body shots imagine what g-man would do to him....
amck73


My exact thoughts

G-Man would punch a hole the size of the bermuda triangle through Kessler`s chest
crold1
Depends. McClellan could be outboxed and if kessler could survive the rush (and he's shown more chin so far than Benn) he could pull the trick. Gerald continues his reign as one of the net's great overrateds. smile.gif
Sex Machine
McCellan was a force of nature and it took a mighty effort from Benn to hold him off. Benn was fighting for his life in there but I dont think what Kessler has shown so far is going to be enough. Kessler is a nice boxer but the Gman would have to be a huge favorite.
Monzon
QUOTE(crold1 @ Aug 4 2009, 03:49 PM) *

Depends. McClellan could be outboxed and if kessler could survive the rush (and he's shown more chin so far than Benn) he could pull the trick. Gerald continues his reign as one of the net's great overrateds. smile.gif


I tend to agree. McClellan could bang, but Benn was never big in the chin department (although he had plenty of heart, which made up for it) and he survived McClellan's early assault and took him late. People here act like McClellan could just run up on Kessler like he did with Benn and Jackson. I don't see that happening. Kessler I believe is the bigger man and can punch more than a little. I think walking into that telephone pole jab and hard right hand would get McClellan's respect early. This would be more of a tactical fight. I think it's a tossup. But if McClellan wins this it's by fighting as a boxer puncher. He wouldn't just bomb Kessler out.
c0rvette
QUOTE(Monzon @ Aug 11 2009, 12:19 PM) *

I tend to agree. McClellan could bang, but Benn was never big in the chin department (although he had plenty of heart, which made up for it) and he survived McClellan's early assault and took him late. People here act like McClellan could just run up on Kessler like he did with Benn and Jackson. I don't see that happening. Kessler I believe is the bigger man and can punch more than a little. I think walking into that telephone pole jab and hard right hand would get McClellan's respect early. This would be more of a tactical fight. I think it's a tossup. But if McClellan wins this it's by fighting as a boxer puncher. He wouldn't just bomb Kessler out.

My question is who exactly that is worth mentioning that Kessler has outboxed? I dont know a whole lot of him, and have only seen a handful of his fights, but I've yet to see this master boxer some people think he is.
Salvy_Mic
He outboxed Andrade pretty good, all the while nailing him with some ridiculously huge shots the entire way in. The only thing is that Andrade is a cyborg and he just didn't know any better than to come forward and keep trying to win. But that fight displayed that you can't come face first on Kessler without taking a shitload of punishment.

Either way, I do believe that McClellan gets Kessler in trouble more often than vice versa, and in one of those moments when Kessler is hurt, McClellan would punish him.
c0rvette
QUOTE(Salvy_Mic @ Aug 11 2009, 04:52 PM) *

He outboxed Andrade pretty good, all the while nailing him with some ridiculously huge shots the entire way in. The only thing is that Andrade is a cyborg and he just didn't know any better than to come forward and keep trying to win. But that fight displayed that you can't come face first on Kessler without taking a shitload of punishment.

Either way, I do believe that McClellan gets Kessler in trouble more often than vice versa, and in one of those moments when Kessler is hurt, McClellan would punish him.

I dont know, Kessler just has never impressed me as much as he has alot of people. He stepped up once in competition and got his ass handed to him by Joe, I just dont see where this other great stuff he does comes from, hes fought no one and beat no one.
Monzon
QUOTE(c0rvette @ Aug 11 2009, 02:29 PM) *

I dont know, Kessler just has never impressed me as much as he has alot of people. He stepped up once in competition and got his ass handed to him by Joe, I just dont see where this other great stuff he does comes from, hes fought no one and beat no one.


Calzaghe won 8 rounds at most. The fight could have been scored 7-5. It was far from a beating. Calzaghe clearly won, but as I understand Kessler was less than 100% for that fight.

Kessler's beaten some quality opponents at 168, including Manny Siacca, Librado Andrade, Anthony Mundine and Marcus Beyer. Are those guys as dangerous as McClellan? Bo. But I think Kessler's resume is at least as strong, if not stronger than McClellan's. Really, McClellan's only big wins were over Julian Jackson (the Mugabi win came after Hagler and Norris had worn him down). Julian Jackson was probably the weakest of the MW titleholders when McClellan fought him.

Just because Kessler lost to Calzaghe does not mean that McClellan would have had the same success. McClellan did have the same speed and awkward style of Calzaghe, nor did he have Calzaghe's workrate. He was more of a powerpunching sharp shooter.

If anything, the fact that McClellan lost to Benn when he did bodes well for Kessler. Kessler is a much more formidable fighter than Benn was at the time McClellan fought him. Benn was not a particularly huge puncher at 168. I'm sure Kessler hits as hard if not harder. Kessler appears to have a better beard, and he certainly is a better fighter from a technical perspective. I also think that Benn was starting to decline when he fought McClellan.

All of the comments you make about Kessler could probably be made with even greater force with respect to McClellan. Who was really more potential than actual accomplishment.

Sex Machine
Kessler is a solid fighter but Gerald was a force of nature. I dont see anything that leads me to believe he`ll handle that kind of heat. Remember McCellan could box too. He was no crude slugger at all.
Monzon
QUOTE(ExplosveThinMan @ Aug 11 2009, 04:02 PM) *

Kessler is a solid fighter but Gerald was a force of nature. I dont see anything that leads me to believe he`ll handle that kind of heat. Remember McCellan could box too. He was no crude slugger at all.


I know. And I think if he were to beat Kessler, he'd have to use his boxing ability. I'm just not sure we found out enough about McClellan to KNOW he'd beat Kessler. That's why I see this as a tossup. Was he ever hit back as hard as Kessler would hit him? With the kind of quick short and straight shots Kessler thows? McClellan had tremendous power, but lets not forget that Benn, who did not have a Chuvaloesque beard, took his punches. While Benn was dropped and hurt a few times, he stayed in the fight. I don't think McClellan would be able to hurt or knock down Kessler nearly as easily.

This would be a tough, tactical fight. It's no blowout.
Sex Machine
QUOTE(Monzon @ Aug 11 2009, 05:17 PM) *

I know. And I think if he were to beat Kessler, he'd have to use his boxing ability. I'm just not sure we found out enough about McClellan to KNOW he'd beat Kessler. That's why I see this as a tossup. Was he ever hit back as hard as Kessler would hit him? With the kind of quick short and straight shots Kessler thows? McClellan had tremendous power, but lets not forget that Benn, who did not have a Chuvaloesque beard, took his punches. While Benn was dropped and hurt a few times, he stayed in the fight. I don't think McClellan would be able to hurt or knock down Kessler nearly as easily.

This would be a tough, tactical fight. It's no blowout.

Well Julian Jackson hit him. It was in the 160lb division but he took those blows with no effect. Im not sure what we can take from the Benn fight. They both hit each other with hellacious shots. McCellan`s chin looked pretty tough.
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We also have to take into account that Kessler is a huge SMW. We really have no way of really knowing how awesome G-Man's power was past 160 when his only fight there was Benn. Benn was a chinny dude and he was able to stay with him.

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c0rvette
QUOTE(Monzon @ Aug 11 2009, 06:55 PM) *

Calzaghe won 8 rounds at most. The fight could have been scored 7-5. It was far from a beating. Calzaghe clearly won, but as I understand Kessler was less than 100% for that fight.

Kessler's beaten some quality opponents at 168, including Manny Siacca, Librado Andrade, Anthony Mundine and Marcus Beyer. Are those guys as dangerous as McClellan? Bo. But I think Kessler's resume is at least as strong, if not stronger than McClellan's. Really, McClellan's only big wins were over Julian Jackson (the Mugabi win came after Hagler and Norris had worn him down). Julian Jackson was probably the weakest of the MW titleholders when McClellan fought him.

Just because Kessler lost to Calzaghe does not mean that McClellan would have had the same success. McClellan did have the same speed and awkward style of Calzaghe, nor did he have Calzaghe's workrate. He was more of a powerpunching sharp shooter.

If anything, the fact that McClellan lost to Benn when he did bodes well for Kessler. Kessler is a much more formidable fighter than Benn was at the time McClellan fought him. Benn was not a particularly huge puncher at 168. I'm sure Kessler hits as hard if not harder. Kessler appears to have a better beard, and he certainly is a better fighter from a technical perspective. I also think that Benn was starting to decline when he fought McClellan.

All of the comments you make about Kessler could probably be made with even greater force with respect to McClellan. Who was really more potential than actual accomplishment.

I'm not trying to discredit Kessler, or say that Cal dominated him, I'm just saying I've never seen him thoroughly dominate someone the way McClellan has, and the fighters you named for Kessler arent exactly world beaters.

Edit... Hell I was actually rooting for Kessler to beat Joe, he just for some reason didnt seem to know when to pull the trigger.
blackartsviper
QUOTE(crold1 @ Aug 4 2009, 06:49 PM) *

Depends. McClellan could be outboxed and if kessler could survive the rush (and he's shown more chin so far than Benn) he could pull the trick. Gerald continues his reign as one of the net's great overrateds. smile.gif


I agree that McClellan gets overrated. His power was awesome and he showed an incredible chin in his fight with Julian Jackson and even in the Benn fight. But his defense was non-existent and guys who jabbed and moved gave him all types of trouble. I think that if Kessler gets past the early rushes, he can win because he has good wheels, a very good right cross, and a truly great jab.
The Sly Fox
I don't think Kessler's chances are as slim as some here are suggesting, but I would honestly have to favour McClellan's whirlwhind assault.

McClellan in six.
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