The Sly Fox
Jul 19 2009, 09:06 PM
Some consider this a mismatch (in either direction), others, a competitive fight.
How do you see it over fifteen rounds?
PWillIsGod
Jul 19 2009, 11:54 PM
Jones by wide decision, the athletic difference is just too much for Gene to overcome. He would feel like he was fighting a ghost.
Smelodies
Jul 27 2009, 06:39 AM
Jones knows where the neutral corner is located.
Post-Montel Griffin Jones, anyway.
luisio
Aug 4 2009, 05:38 PM
jones tko 11.....tunney wouldnt be able to touch jones...
The Sly Fox
Aug 4 2009, 07:05 PM
There's not a fighter in history between 168 & 190lbs. Gene Tunney, "couldn't touch," IMO. Not a one.
crold1
Aug 4 2009, 07:12 PM
QUOTE(The Sly Fox @ Aug 4 2009, 11:05 PM)

There's not a fighter in history between 168 & 190lbs. Gene Tunney, "couldn't touch," IMO. Not a one.
Agreed. This would be a fantastic fight. Tunney could crack at 75 and had an excellent jab. His chin was fabulous too. Never thought about it but I like it.
The Sly Fox
Aug 4 2009, 07:21 PM
Fair to say Tunney's a lot more proven as a fighter than Jones. I'm not saying Tunney wins hands-down, or anything so silly --- but it is, for mine, equally-absurd to consider Jones a lock in this one.
Beating Greb, Gibbons, Carpentier, Dempsey & co. puts one in good stead to face any kind of adversary.
K X P
Aug 5 2009, 08:35 AM
If it is 15 rounds Jones loses. I seriously seriously think Tunney would gameplan the shit out of Roy and though he isn't a southpaw he would stymie him the way Montel Griffin did in their first fight by forcing Roy to lead and Tunney was a patient fighter who could get you completely out of your gameplan.
In short, I pick science over athletic ability and Tunney was pure science.
K X P
Sex Machine
Aug 5 2009, 08:48 AM
QUOTE(K X P @ Aug 5 2009, 09:35 AM)

If it is 15 rounds Jones loses. I seriously seriously think Tunney would gameplan the shit out of Roy and though he isn't a southpaw he would stymie him the way Montel Griffin did in their first fight by forcing Roy to lead and Tunney was a patient fighter who could get you completely out of your gameplan.
In short, I pick science over athletic ability and Tunney was pure science.
K X P
Good post. Tunny was very smart and had a good skills set. Pretty good height and his hands were not as fast as Roy`s but he wasnt slow. A nice jab and nice combos behind it.
Id still take Jones but probably would be a competitive fight.
luisio
Aug 5 2009, 11:10 AM
ya'll mustve forgot..........
The Sly Fox
Aug 5 2009, 03:37 PM
I think, in the end, I would just hope Jones'd take Tunney as seriously, & plan as meticulously for him, as Tunney would Jones.
No basketball shoot-outs prior to this one, if Jones knows what he's up against. I really would love to see if Tunney could piece him together after a slow start coming to grips with Jones' freakish abilities early on, which is what I would think to happen. Tunney was beautiful like that. He could hurt Jones, too, as even Dempsey admitted to being wounded by his under-rated punch on one occasion in particular (not the knockdown).
I agree that fifteen rounds suits Tunney moreso than twelve. Can't see Jones winning the bulk of the late rounds, though --- I question his intestinal fortitude for it against a ring legend like Tunney, frankly. He'd have to put all those early rounds in the bank for a decision.
Monzon
Aug 20 2009, 10:42 AM
QUOTE(The Sly Fox @ Aug 5 2009, 03:37 PM)

I think, in the end, I would just hope Jones'd take Tunney as seriously, & plan as meticulously for him, as Tunney would Jones.
No basketball shoot-outs prior to this one, if Jones knows what he's up against. I really would love to see if Tunney could piece him together after a slow start coming to grips with Jones' freakish abilities early on, which is what I would think to happen. Tunney was beautiful like that. He could hurt Jones, too, as even Dempsey admitted to being wounded by his under-rated punch on one occasion in particular (not the knockdown).
I agree that fifteen rounds suits Tunney moreso than twelve. Can't see Jones winning the bulk of the late rounds, though --- I question his intestinal fortitude for it against a ring legend like Tunney, frankly. He'd have to put all those early rounds in the bank for a decision.
I haven't seen enough of Tunney to know how this would play out. I am pretty sure that he wouldn't just let Jones do his usual stick and move routine. I think he'd force Jones to fight in spots. The question is how he deals with Jones' speed. I just haven't seen enough tape of Tunney to judge that one. But he was so successful over the course of his career I have a hard time thinking this would be easy for Jones.
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