Hatton always said he wants to be the best pound for pound fighter in the world, thats why he want to face Pacquiao. Will he be No.1 Pound for Pound if he beats Pacquiao? Is he deserving to be the heir apparent should he beat Pacquiao?

No. Hatton is fighting a naturally much smaller man. If he wins, he'll probably earn a spot in the P4P top 10 again, but that's it. I still think that Bradley or Holt will take Hatton and neither one of those two has shown themselves to be p4p top 20 yet.

NO. Sorry nice try ricky. Welcome to the boards tho

No.

P4P is a funny thing. Most guys don't get crowned sitting in their own weight division, and everyone knows what happens when Ricky moves up to welterweight. That certainly hurts his P4P standings. Guys can still get on the list by having long reigns against solid contenders in one division, but like Monzon said, that probably doesn't happen before someone like a Bradley beats him.

He deserves to be near the top ten already. Beat Pacquiao and he's probably right around the top five.

Not in my book. Hatton's opposition the last couple of years has been so-so. A win over Manny would be very good, but Manny has campaigned at a lighter weight for his entire career, except 1 fight.

Hatton would need to clean out 140 to make a case for top P4P. A polished Ortiz, Bradley, Holt, etc. That's a tough bunch.

If this fight happened in mid 07 Id say yea. For now, I'd concede top 5-7 if he beats Manny.

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I'm gonna go against the general consensus and say...

NO

P4P isn't a title, it's an argument. You don't become #1 just because you beat #1 because there's really no such thing anyways. Could Ricky Hatton beat Bernard Hopkins....um, they can't fight. If someone wanted to make an argument for Hatton, great. The one most can agree on is he is the lineal Jr. welterweight king, an honor he'll still have and one he can actually win or lose in the ring should he beat Manny.

I think Hatton is in the back of the top 10 now. I would have to make a list to know where I would place him, but off the top of my head he seems top 10ish to me. But a win over Hatton would not make him number 1. As everyone has said, Hatton is too much bigger than Manny (whose fight with Hatton will be his 4th division in 4 fights) for it to vault him much higher.

That said, Tszyu, Collazo, Castillo, Urango, Lazcano, Malignaggi and Pacquiao is a HoF career these days and Ricky would have nothing of which to be ashamed.

No, But he is going to beat him. I honestly don't know if I would put Ricky ahead of Pacquaio if he wins. Depends on how it happens.

I think that's right. I still have Rafa ahead of Izzy PFP due to the fact that after 3 fights I think they are evenly matched and Rafa is the one moving up in weight and has Austin and Too Sharp on his resume.

If Pac were to lose, then beat the winner of JMM-Diaz, I would probably rank Pac ahead of Hatton regardless of how Hatton wins.

It's just a shame that Hatton wont get any credit from this place when he wins. The same people predicting a Pacquaio KO will then say Ricky was just too big.

I honestly think it's hatton's style more than his size. though that is also significant. If he punches his way in instead of those crazy lunges. I think people will be shocked by how clearly he wins this.

That will definitely happen in Hatton wins. It is now conventional wisdom among many that Hatton deserves no credit for beating Tszyu or Castillo because both were shot when he got them. Although Castillo probably was, it took a fighter of Hatton's calibre to prove it. Tszyu didn't look shot to me. Similarly, if Hatton beats Pacman it will be due to a combination of size and style (he has the difficult style and is big and good enough to impose it). But, even if size is a factor, it will take a hell of a 140 to beat the Pacman and Hatton will deserve credit if he wins. Just not PFP #1 kind of credit.

Hatton is one of my favorite fighters. Along with PWill, Dawson, Diaz & Abraham. I love how they are all hated. Though the irrational garbage can bug you. Many have called all five of them garbage. By the end of the year they will all be P4P Top 10.

Hatton will be top 6 P4P on almost everyone's list if he beats Pac (which won't happen). Not sure how much credit y'all want him to get.

I hope so. I expect a totally different recap from the legions of hatton haters. We will see.

depends on how he wins. if he wrestles manny to death hell no but if he knocks manny out i would say yes.

Mark
sorry if I missed it how do you see the fight going?

He'll deserve credit. Pacquiao, although the smaller man, is a beast. But I think the amount Hatton can climb p4p has to be somewhat tempered. Right now there are two legitimate contenders in that division with titles who I think would take Ricky (Holt and Bradley). I don't think either man deserves a place in the p4p top 20. Going so far as to rank Hatton p4p #1 for beating Pacman (which I don't think he'll do, although I do see it as a possibility unlike some here) seems a bit too much. He'd probably crack the p4p top 10 again. I think ranking him between #10 and #6 would be fair. I think he'd have to take care of business against Holt and/or Bradley to move higher.

Hatton by decision or late stoppage. i think he will weather some rough spots early and grind Manny down. You can't sell pac short and I will be far from shocked if he wins. I just can't put too much into his two fights over 130. David Diaz is highly limited and he would have probably beat Oscar that night.

Pac is an all time great and deserves credit for getting the job done. But i think Hatton is too big a hurdle. Should be a good fight though and I wouldn't rule out a rematch no matter who wins.

If Calzaghe loses and god forbid, somehow Marquez were to lose, then he'd be seriously considered. But I don't think so. He'd have to follow it up impressively.

It would depend on how he wins. If he steamrolled Manny would be one thing. If it's the tough hard fight I expect I would probably still have Manny above Ricky. Something like..

Cal- Until Chad whoops him
Izzy
Raffy
Hops
Pac
Mosley
Pwill
Hatton
Diaz- After he kicks JMM's ass

obviously it makes him number 1 duh guys.

Hatton is weak. His last fight have been extremely boring. I hope pac knocks some sense into him.

That is the stuff. Thanks

No. Hatton can push Manny on the backfoot with his size and rough him all night. I don't think he can beat Pac with pure boxing ability. He will have to impose his size advantage and be himself i.e. rough Manny like he did to Kostya Tzyu. I thought Oscar would steamroll Manny due to his physical advantage, but he gave up on it himself by losing excessive weight. Hatton won't do it. That will make Hatton the clearly bigger and stronger man that night, and thus his roughhouse tactic will be meaningful. Hatton is not only dirty but also quick. It will be a hard, rough fight for Manny. Manny can certainly do it, but it will be difficult.

Since this thread is utterly absurd

Lets talk about how far will Pac shoot up the all time list if he manages to beat Ricky? Do you take credit from the win by saying Ricky is on the backside of his career or does this win move Pac up another spot among the alltimers?

What if Pac beats Ricky and Floyd? Where would you place him? Its gotta be high.

Yes it moves him up considerably. Both of them is top 20.

top 20? You wouldnt have him top ten if he beat both Ricky Hatton and Floyd freaking Mayweather*?









*he would lose, but its fun to think about

I don't know. Have to watch the fights. I wouldn't argue if someone did. Probably 19th. Which really is second since every man knows Thomas Hearns was actually the GOAT.

Hearns vs Pac at 147 would have looked like Dikembe Mutombo fighting that Short Round kid from Indiana Jones.

Obviously Pac wins the fight with in and out movement.

Pacquaio probably would win. Hearns would spend most of the fight thinking he was fighting a ghost. By the time he looked down far enough to see him. It may be too late.

Hearns couldn't carry Vernon Forrest's jockstrap.



If Pacman wins this fight, I think he makes a good case for the best fighter of his generation.

No on Hatton.


I think the #1 P4P fighter should have some skills. Im kind of Kooky that way.

You could already make a case for him. Mayweather & hopkins are the only others. I would have to give the nod to Hops at this point. But manny could fight another 5 years. Dude is better now than he ever has been.

This sounds like Hatton SD over Mayweather talk to me.

I do agree that Pac above 130 is more of a question mark than most people think, though.

He already is.

His resume will have more big names than anyone in recent history. And wins against almost all of them.

Plus he moved up in weight so much and looked for good fighters while he was doing it.

plus hes a great negotiator

coslam

Fixed.

Maybe, Hopkins has a case. A strong one, and so does Floyd.

top ten p4p when he beats pac. he would need another follow up victory over a good/great fighter to make it top 5

If Pac beats Ricky, I'l heap praise on him til the cows come home. And I'm eating balut for a week.

Basically, I've been tough on him. Too tough. But he is the patron saint of boxing if he can do it.