Got something to say and it isn't really thread worthy? Put it in here. We have them on every other forum. This is a good spot for rants about how gay the Klitschko's are or how manly Holyfield is. Or any glorious statement that is generated by overwhelming hate.

I wanted to take the time to wish Erik Morales a Happy Birthday.

I didn't know gods had birthdays.

HBO has some cool boxing podcasts. You know how on On Demand they have all those little vignettes or highlight videos? They put them on the HBO Boxing podcast and you can load them on your iPod. They even have audio versions of all the fights dating back about a year and a half or more. Next time I am at work, I will LISTEN to Pacquiao-Morales I. I wonder if I can handle that.

I found a box of tapes last week from the late 70's and early 80's. My Dad and I used to record the fights on a tape recorder.

I found Hagler/Antuofermo 1, Leonard/Benitez, Holmes/Shavers 2, Zarate/Pintor, Saad/Johnson 2, Lopez/Ayala.

Listened to them. it's hilarious when we got all excited and yelled over the audio. The funniest was either me at 10yrs old demanding that Leonard intentionally headbutted Benitez. Or my Dad screaming at Earnie Shavers taking everything Holmes could throw at him.

Brought back a lot of great memories.

Not seeing a fight but hearing Lampley could make me a serial killer within two listens.

I was a fan of Leroy Haley when I was a kid. It was because

1. He beat Saoul Mamby, who I found boring.

2. He was a black guy with the nickname "Irish".

Keith Mullings was a bad ass.

Anthony Mundine vs Shannon Taylor early next year. Theyl be charging around $40-$50 for the ppv.

Mundine makes me sick now.

did anyone see the Darchinyan-Gorres fight? I started watching it on youtube but I fell asleep after about 3 rds.. is the whole fight worth watching? From what I heard Gorres can be kind of boring, and he did seem to be running a little bit.

Same. Although I saw most of the replay, bar a few rds through distractions, what not. Gorres is a runner with average stamina. Most ALA fighters fight like that.

Not one for the collection.

I always liked Louis Monaco. He looked like he could be HW champ, until the opening bell rang. Besides he knocked out both Peter McNeeley and Buster Douglas.

Didn't he get Dq'd against Buster?

Good thread

I became a bigger Evander Holyfield fan not because of anything he did in the ring, but because of Evander Holyfield's Real Deal Boxing. I was seven or so when that came out and it was easily the best boxing game up until that point. It still ranks up there.

Anyways, the game version of Holyfield mirrored his actual career. He was impossible to beat at first. Then once you beat him, you keep fighting him until he disappeared out of the rankings for a long time. I remember we knocked him off the game, then like six months later he was in the top 10 with some silly record and then won the title again. Look at how his career played out and it is funny.

In the game you could create two boxers simultaneously and go up the rankings, and with two older brothers that was a lot of fun. We would always create real boxers, and we even kept title histories. I remember Holyfield's first reign lasted over a year. We could not fucking beat him. My brother finally beat him with Axel Schulz. I won the title with Peter McNeeley and David Tua. I think we even created a fucking Buster Mathis, Jr. I wish I still had that game.

I remember having a bunch of friends over for the PPV of Tyson/Seldon. After the fight they were so disgusted they never wanted to watch boxing again. I pleaded with them to come back to watch Tyson/Holy. I told them that even though Holy was over the hill, he would go out on his shield and never quit like punk Seldon did.

For Tyson/Holy, there was a house full of people. I had a cable splitter so that we could have TV's in the living room, dining room and the bathroom (don't want to miss the action taking a leek). People brought snacks and drinks. It was a huge party. We were all waiting for the expected auto accident- Holy going down in a spectacular blaze of fiery glory!! Heck, I even joked to my buddy that we would actually buy the overpriced T-shirts DKP was pushing if Holy somehow won.

So in round one Tyson walks up to Holy and hits him in the mouth with a right that was far more damaging than anything Seldon got hit with and it was like the world stood still for just a second when... Holy hit him back!!! It was on!! I remember thinking that Tyson would know he had been in a fight this night. When Holy started to wilt in the 5th after a monsterous body shot, I thought that the fun would soon be over. Never did I imagine what was to come with Tyson going down in the 6th. Everyone in my crowded house was on their feet for the whole fight. We didn't even here the bell ring when Tyson almost got stopped in the tenth. That night made up for all the McNeely, Bruno and Seldon disasters that my friends and I had paid for.

Oh yea, I still have that t-shirt!

100 Years ago today the boxing world, in fact the world itself, changed forever thanks to a fight that took place in Australia...

Jack Johnson v Tommy Burns

I watched In-Jin Chi vs. Michael Brodie a few days ago. What a fucking war. Chi is about the only featherweight I've ever seen who had legs comparable to Pacquiao in size. Really wish he and Pacquiao could have fought each other in 02-03 before Pac became a more complete fighter. Total blood bath.

Yeah, He hit Buster right after the first Bell and knocked him on queer street. Buster said he couldn't continue so they called it a DQ loss for Monaco.

I used to have a Sega emulator on my old computer and downloaded it just so I can play that game on my computer. It was awesome.

Good thread.





That gif still amazes me. Judah is retarded.


Just a random thing.

I just watched Vargas-Trinidad for the eleventy thousandth time.

This has to rank as one of the most under-appreciated fights of the modern era. I rarely hear it brought up in discussions of all-time great wars, but this one had it all. Bad blood. Great exchanges. Knock downs. Controversy. Shifts in momentum. And a dramatic (if one-sided) ending. Oh. And an ATG stare-down.

Vargas-Trinidad gets remember. It won Fight of the Year. I think the underrated fight is Tito-Mayorga. That shit was fun as fuck.

The only reason Trinidad-Vargas might get overshadowed is because both Morales-Barrera I and Mosley-de la Hoya I took place that year. There are some years where there are about 3 fights that didn't win FOTY honors that are better than certain years' actual FOTY.

This year, 2000, and '82 were those types of years.

Can anyone tell me if Mercer and McCall ever fought each other? Also, why was McCall the one heavy Holyfield never fought? That fight would have been entertaining in a one-sided way, no?

Mercer and McCall never fought. Entertaining fight from hindsight if it happened but it was two guys who never made it over the hump though BOTH beat Lewis (one by ko and one by not getting the decision).

I think Oliver/Holy is a mismatch because as hard as the bull hit, he sucked at fighting. Holy fought.

greatest second post in a thread of all time?

My instincts tell me yes.




In case you missed the memo, every fight Ricardo is in turns to fun. Dude is completely underappreciated as a caveman / face first brawler.



Tito completely beat the fight out of him. Since that fight he hasnt taken a flush punch from anyone without being hurt.

Sithchatchawal-Monshipour is awesome and not having Nick Charles and Wally Matthews to mess up the commentary makes it all the more better. Yes, I would rather the Versus telecasts be broadcast in French.

i'm glad he KD'd darchinyan tho.

Mayorga is constantly in boring fights. That he is exciting is a gigantic myth.

Same with the myth that he is still a "dangerous" fighter-- who is the last guy he knocked out?

The answer: Vermin F-orr-est, nearly six years ago.

why did "ghost" guerrero leave dan goosen? seems like he was getting decent exposure.

I had no idea it was that long ago.

In fairness though, he's pretty much just fought badasses since then, with the exception of one or two fights.

Yeah, but he still couldn't stop Mitchell or Piccirillo. Mayorga has no power above 47. Even there against world class fighters. Those clubbing punches are easy to brace for. He was a strong dude more than a big puncher.

Oh, shaddap, ya old grump. Ricky is the man.

I'll take that as cosign. His press conferences are often more entertaining than his fights.

Very true

Random stuff...

I love listening to cornermen give instructions between rounds. My recent favorites are Bouie Fisher, Enzo Calzaghe, and Pat Burns.

Nacho Beristain is one scary-looking, fish eyed fool. His eyes roll around like he just ate a handful of ecstasy.

I'm seriously considering getting the UFC PPV this weekend. What a stacked card.



Random quote...

"Margerito is far from being an elite fighter I can't see him beating anyone who is of A caliber fighter.
His 2 high profile fights Santos and Clotty he looked like ass ..Now he wanted the winner of Quintana Cotto well Cotto tears that ass up !" -imperial

If you wanna start that game, I'm down.

"Is there really much of a difference between the holyfield today and the one of 10-15 years ago? Holyfield's weaknesses are just being exposed lately. He doesnt do well with boxers. Sultan beats him at any point, as does Larry Donald. Moorer outboxed him. Ruiz just had a tough style. Toney was just too tricky defensively.

To me this latest run lowers his all time standing. Id rate him a little bit below Walcott." -- Pickledeggssays

http://www.starboxing.com/newsdetails.php?nNewsID=221

If you ask him, he would tell you he'd fight anyone that you put in front of him, and he wouldn't be lying. Since first turning pro on February 13, 2003, the self-proclaimed greatest heavyweight in the world, Star Boxing's Kevin "Kingpin" Johnson has been telling anyone who would listen he was destined to become the next great heavyweight champion. Now 21 wins later against 0 defeats, Johnson has positioned himself as one of the top, if not the top, heavyweight prospect in the world (earning rankings in both the WBA #5, and WBC #10) and is making people believe that what he has been saying all along is actually true.

Now Johnson, in an attempt to further position himself as the top heavyweight prospect in the business and prove he is willing to fight anyone and everyone, is willing to put everything on the line, including a very good friendship, by challenging undefeated knockout artist Chris "Nightmare" Arreola (26- 0, 23KO). Arreola last fought on November 29th on HBO against Travis Walker (28-2-1, 22KO) stopping Walker in the third round of their scheduled twelve round heavyweight contest.

"We think that Kevin is the best heavyweight in the world. On the other hand Chris thinks he is the best and has his people telling him the same thing. Depending on who you talk to in the industry one person will say Kevin is the best, another will say Chris is. So let's decide who actually is the best and have these two great heavyweight prospects fight each other, plain and simple," said Johnson's promoter, CEO of Star Boxing, Joe DeGuardia. "It would be a great fight for the fans, a great fight for the heavyweight division and a great fight for the U.S. The winner clearly cements themselves as THE best American heavyweight, THE best heavyweight prospect in the entire world, and THE rightful challenger to the heavyweight champions out there."



Somebody needs to man up and fight kingpin. Are the heavies afraid of this guy?

I think the boring nature of his fights has people looking elsewhere.

is there anything more vicious looking than a shane mosley's left hook to the body? he puts his whole body into it, even turning his head to his right right after impact. now, probably a short hook would be more affective. but his left hook followed through with body language is a thing of beauty. i would not not take that left hook to the body for 1g
maybe for 12G so i wouldnt have to worry about my mortage for 6 months

I like to think about boxing when I should be working, and today I was wondering "Why did they let Lennox Lewis wear his protector up to his chin in the first Holyfield fight?"

In a majority draw, in what order should the ring announcer annouce the cards as to preserve the drama?

random side note - Gatti-Robinson I and II on ESPN2 tonight. followed by Marg-Cotto and Pac-JMM 2 on HBO. all in all, a solid night of boxing.

Johnson needs to throw a right hand every once in a while, maybe 1 or 2 a round, 3 if he's just feeling crazy, it would do wonders for his career, its a mystery to me why boring fighters are so incredulous as to why they don't get big fights. Risk/reward, why would Arreola even fight Johnson?

Read a draw card first, then the scorecard that scored the fight for one of the fighters, and of course, the other draw card.

thanks for the heads up.

I was watching Qawi/Leon Spinks for about the 10th time. It's one of those unexplainable, there should be no reason why I should want to rewatch such a one-sided beatdown, yet I do over and over again. Anyway, in the fourth round, when Qawi slips like 4 left hooks in a row, dances, laughs, sticks his tongue out, and then proceeds to beat the living shit out of Leon, has there ever been a better clowning in the history of boxing? I think not.

Why don't promoters schedule a top 15 contender (in the same weight class) on the undercard of every title fight main event? Put the guy in with a tomato can (won't cost much) with the promise they will get half the pay of a headliner if one of the two drops out with injury or weigh-in problems. This would solve a lot of refund and cancellation problems.

"Judge A scores the bout 115-113 for Gatti! GAT-TEE! Judges B and C both see the bout (pause for drama) 114-114 a DRAW! DRAW!"

He was better as a point guard for the Suns.

Good call. Watching Shane work the heavy bag is a thing of beauty. I think Paul Williams throws a hella right hook to the body. Puts everyting he has into it. He broke Verno's guts with that punch a while back.

Ulises Solis is a p4per, he just doesnt have the resume

He would beat Ironboy, now that the little guy has some wear on his tread.

and hes gonna school Viloria