Merry Christmas Texas Tech, I can't believe that guy ran out of bounds on the punt return, unbelievable.

LOL, what was that? Nice 4th and 4 call.

Big 12 has no defenses!!! Tebow for pres!

But their quarterback play is so good, defense doesn't matter anymore.

I dont know...

Harrell isnt exactly looking good against Ole Miss...

And im pretty sure the Gators will make Bradford look amatuerish in compairison to how his season went...

I wasn't being serious man

Its not like Ole Miss is this good a running team, they're just up against a horrible defense.

It shouldn't really even be this close.

Edit: Unbelievable, Ole Miss is doing whatever they can to keep Tech in the game.

Or maybe not

You gotta play defense in major college Football. Oklahoma is going to get destroyed.

That chant is music to my ears...Overrated......Overrated........Overrated.....LMAO

Hopefully Graham harrell took his scholastics seriously. This is his last Football game. Maybe Arena league.

I don't even like that chant usually, seems like it takes away from a win, but it was perfect for today. If people saw Ole Miss late in the year, or even early against Florida and Alabama, then this wouldn't be much of a surprise. They will be a handful next year too.

I will enjoy Oklahoma getting hammered too. I've got Texas to win, fairly confident about that. The extra practices can only help Pryor but I still don't think he's quite there yet. Plus I think Texas is the best the Big 12 has to offer, they at least play a little D.

A great day so far.

Agreed on Texas winning. But I'm taking Ohio St and the points. I've made a ridiculous run from the dead in my bowl pool. LSU started a seven game winning streak. That's $500 if I can pass the guy in front of me.

SEC looks strong. I expect Bama to whitewash Utah tonight. Then Florida will finish the season off in style.

This is hilarious, I haven't seen us make this many mistakes in a single game this year, much less a quarter.

I may have to start drinking sooner than I thought.

We actually got the snap all the way to the holder, impressive.

Oh shit...Bama is gonna lose to Utah.

That's a stunner. I was amazed how much pressure Utah's d-line generated.

I hate Bama's coach so I enjoyed tonights game big time.

oh well, that sucked, they dominated, no blocking, crappy tackling.

Saban is a quitter, pussy. Fuck him. You are a good person.

LOL...it was bad enough Utah was rated behind a 1-loss USC team whose loss came to a team Utah beat. This was nice icing and hopefully the AP completes the needed ball kick and splits the national title. The MWC was 6-1 against the Pac-10 in the regular season and even had Wyoming beating Tennessee. This team deserves to be called a national champion as much as any in the nation.

here here!

I was incredably disappointed when they didnt put Utah vs Texas. That would be a fucking ball of a game. Utah put up 31 on 'Bamas defense, one of the best in the nation, and sport one of the best defenses in the nation themselves.

This season solved NOTHING at the end of it all. At the end of it all you will have Utah, USC, Texas and Florida/Oklahoma... How can you legitimately say one is better than the other at this point?

We need a REAL championship system...

now saban can leave bama for the denver job.......................

So is Turner Gill still the college football coaching messiah?

I guess I couldn't understand how Ball State completely throwing away a big game meant that Turner Gill was the greatest coach out there now. He's certainly a good one with a bad program, but not an elite one.

And why is that? He completely turned around a garbage program. I imagine you would have been saying the same shit about Jim Tressell.

Buffalo wasn't even supposed to be in a bowl game and they weren't supposed to win this one.

I agree, he has done a great job with a bad program. But seriously, they went 8-6, won a bad conference and lost in a minor bowl game. I just keep reading Turner Gill's name in every article I read about coaching changes and I keep remembering that no one heard of him until Ball State just self-destructed and gave them the conference. I don't understand how that game made him such an elite coach.

And I think Jim Tressel is a douche and an overrated coach, so I'd say Gill has him beat, since he is only the latter.

Yeah that was pretty sweet to say the least.

Jim is one of the best coaches in the country. Overrated is hilarious. You should be hearing about Turner Gill in every opening. He is a bright young coach that learned from the master.

He went 8-6 with a team that usually wins 3 games and won the conference he coaches in. Turning around the program is what has his name out there. And you wont know if he is elite until given the opportunity.

One of your most ridiculous statements ever. He lost a bowl game he was supposed to lose and now he sucks. Vintage Seen and best not Heard.

I wasn't stunned.

I don't see how Utah can be denied at least a share of the National Championship after this performance.

Utah's up tempo spread had Bama's defense practically tripping over themselves the entire first half. The Utes were also the much more physical team defensively, which surprised me.

Tressel walked into a great program in the right conference to do well and Ohio State has gotten a lot of breaks over the years because of it's status. Like getting an invitation to the Fiesta Bowl this year for instance. They won one national championship and that was due to lucky breaks in that game and no need to speak of the others.

And once again, I said he is a good coach, but I don't think that he suddenly became good because Ball State sucked so bad in that game.

He was already looked at as good before that game. Here you are saying he isn't good from one game that he wasn't supposed to win. Do you even read what you type? He is a good coach but he sucks because he won a bad conference with a bad team? You never make any sense.

The program got significantly better when Tressel got there. A lot of breaks? Tressel has one of the best coaching records in history. You're the douche. In all my years on here I've never encountered anyone that knows less about Football than you do.

And yet I seem to own you on every single issue you proclaim to be so knowledge about.

I said Georgia was not that good, Texas Tech was no pretender, Texas was not following my advice in the Tech game by going for two and ruining the momentum, Alabama losing to Florida and being overrated and vulnerable...

There was some others I believe too? I think it's fair that you start calling me Daddy.

You own nothing but a duntz cap. You're a complete joke. You had a chance to show your worth but you bitched out like the pussy that you are.

Texas didn't follow your advice? You're such an idiot you don't even understand how retarded you come off. They should have went for that 7pt extra point? You really know nothing about the game.

Texas Tech isn't shit. Your whole Big 12 conference is in a shambles.

How many national titles did John Cooper play for?

Tressel is 82-18.

How about I give you a couple days off and we can see who daddy is?

Very weak. One only needs to go through the thread to know that every single argument we have had, those I mentioned and others that I was right and you were wrong. It amazes me that you are allegedly so knowledge and yet seem to be wrong about everything and I know nothing and yet seem to always be right. Very interesting viewpoint.

You're never right about anything. Lets see if you even have enough sense not to take my bait. Yes, I am baiting you. Say something else and you're suspended.

Here is a perfect example of the garbage you post.

"A golddigger should at least be good looking. Warner's wife goes into fugly territory."

They have been together since he was bagging groceries. You want me to pull up more gems? You're not only wrong, you're an asshole.

I forgot about the classic Dan Marino wasn't great post.

Texas Tech is a product of the Big 12 South... And I would take Georgia over them 6 days out of the week... Stafford would have cleaned up playing the Big 12...

The Big 12 is much worse than the SEC. I will be pulling for Oklahoma though

You would be correct. They were the #1 team in the country yet this turd of a man can't get enough of giving me shit for saying they were good.

Texas Tech was definitely a pretender and Dan marino was definitely great.

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Really touched a nerve by pointing out that you have been wrong in every argument didn't I? Makes you think. Notice you can't contradict it, only change the subject.

The line about Warner's was obviously a joke on what other people were saying. I don't think she's seriously a golddigger, I think few are, I'm just saying that she's tough to look at.

And I never said Marino wasn't a Hall of Famer or anything, I simply said that he didn't win even one ring and you can't be the greatest QB ever if you don't win championships. Statistics are numbers.

Oklahoma and Texas are actually very strong teams. Both national contenders IMO. They dont boast the strongest of defenses, but they are decent overall. Their offenses are amazing sights to behold, and while they might be able to be slowed, they wont be able to be contained by anyone... I think Florida can win a shoot-out with Oklahoma (but it will be close), but I say Texas rolls over Ohio St ala USC-style.

You said Marino wasn't great. What have you been right about? Nothing

Texas beating Texas tech? nope

Texas Tech not being a pretender? nope

Defense being meaningless in College Football? nope

You knowing anything about Football? nope

Jim Tressel being a douche? nope

Texas Tech being better than Penn St? Nope

Warner's wife is hideous. But the only joke is all of your thoughts on Football.

Don'y worry son. I'm not going to ban you. You can keep spewing your garbage. I don't claim to pick every game correctly. Just more than I do wrong and I clearly know more about every aspect of this sport than you do. But so does my little sister.

lol...

I do think Jim Tressel is a bit overrated. A good coach yes, but I wouldnt say great yet. He has been out-coached a number of times when it matters, and thats what counts. He has a solid record, but he is also part of a huge program in Ohio St. The Ohio St program will always be Ohio St, just like Florida remained a big program after the departure of Spurrier. They boast popularity, fame, professional prospects and solid edjucation to their high-school recruits, and will always be at a higher level of play then most schools because of this...

That program wasn't anywhere near it is now when john Cooper was there. Tressel won 4 championchips at youngstown and played in 6 during 13 years. Won 1 and played in 3 during 8 years at Ohio St.

He has beaten Michigan 7 times in 8 tries. The guys numbers are astronomical. I have never seen him outcoached. I've seen his teams lose to better teams.


In 13 years John Cooper had double digit victories 3 times. The two years before Tressel got there they were 6-6 & 8-4.

LOL at the "breaks". Ohio State won the title game over Miami fair and square. Go back and watch that game and check all of the holding that Miami got away with. Only when the refs HAD to make a call did they finally acknowledge that Miami was holding.

I acknowledge that Florida and LSU kicked our ass the last two years. Tressel handled the losses with class, he's 83-18 in 8 years and has a winning bowl record and owns his team's archrival. Compare that to Cooper and tell me again that he's overrated. Stoned.

Great article about the way a team like Utah gets screwed: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news...o&type=lgns

That's why we need a playoff of some sort. 8 teams would be ideal imo. The 6 BCS champions, the Top non BCS & 1 at large.

It's impossible for any tradionalists to say that compromises the regular season in anyway.

Agree Mark; in lieu of it, I hold out hope the AP will do the right thing and split the national title with a nod to Utah if, for no other reason, than to thumb the BCS. This isn't the Hawaii or even Boise team. This team played a real schedule in what, this year, was a serious conference. It was inexcusable that they were rated behind a 1-loss USC team given the Oregon State difference between the two. No major conference team with wins over multiple ranked teams would have suffered a similar insult.

So what do you guys think about the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl sponsored by Mennen? I'm thinking about betting on OSU +9.5.

I got $50 on the Buckeyes.

Edit: just put $50 more on them.

call me nuts, but I like Tex/OSU under 52 also. I don't think Texas has seen a D like this all year.

i do want an 8 team playoff, but cant really condone giving Utah a piece of the national title.