whoa

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7426794.stm






The first flight had an obvious impact on the tribe. By the time the plane returned, most of the women and children had fled and those who remained had painted their bodies.

These men are trying to drive off the plane from which these photographs were taken. They are aiming their bows at the aircraft, which had returned to fly over the settlement for a second time, after making a first pass some hours earlier.

The men have large bows made from forest hardwood, which they use to hunt for animals including tapirs, monkeys, deer, wild pigs and other small mammals.

They have also painted themselves with the red dye, urucum, commonly used by tribes in the Amazon. It is made from the seeds of a fruit similar to the horse chestnut. The seeds are ground into a paste to form the dye.

The body paint is most likely a show of aggression, possibly in response to the plane's first flyover.

That paint makes them look like cavemen. I doubt that is the first time they have seen a plane. Maybe it was the first time a plane flew so low over their settlement.

I saw that, cool stuff. I hope they leave em be.


Or, capture them and put them in a reality show of some kind to amuse my idle mind

Apocolypto Freitas

no truth to the rumor that Golden Boy signed them to exclusive contracts

That's BBC's text, not mine (aside from teh "whoa").

My guess is that they were doing that just to get on tv

For those interested in this subject, I'd recommend finding a documentary called First Contact, though it might be kinda difficult to wrangle up. Might have to search at a local library for it, because I'm not sure if you'd be able to find it online or at your local Blockbuster.

Up until a couple years ago, it was the only known video footage of a native tribe coming into contact with white folk for the first time. It's about the Leahy brothers' expedition into Papua New Guinea, and then there's a follow-up documentary (whose name escapes me at the moment) about how the initial contact has affected the native culture all the way up to (almost) present day.

Very interesting.

Wow. This is fascinating to me. Very interesting. Thank you.

BTW that First Contact documentary is on youtube for anyone interested.

Nice! I didn't think anyone would have upped it to YouTube, but I'd highly recommend checking it out if it's really that interesting to you.

Uh-oh. They're fucked now. Hordes of invasive pain-in-the-ass researchers and scientists will descend like the 7th plague, and within 3 months they will be offered a TV contract for a new reality series. The studio will try to pay them with outdated t-shirts and promotional items, and a vat of green m&ms.

They did a cheap tv show in the UK on channel five where they brought over some tribes people from papua new guinea. I just remember one of them pissing themselves on the tube and them chasing squirrels round hyde park.

Rumor is all the women do anal.

Don't forget all the Christians that will show up to "save their souls."

Holding out blankets laced with smallpox virus.

I think i've seen the documentary that Inty is on about. If its the same one, its mindblowing - I remember one of the guys was hiding in the bushes out of sight whilst the other one remained out front to make contact. The first member of the tribe over the river to meet them walked straight past the first guy with his eye fixed on the camera man - he went a bit nuts when he saw the camera, but soon sttled down trying to wipe the white paint off the first guy.

They gave them salt and recorded their voices and played it back to them and they predictably went crazy.

According to the news report only the Brazilians have the co-ordinates and they have no plans to go back - so if, like me, you are naive then it sounds positive - otherwise yeah, some people will get their hands on the co-ordinates and exploit these people somehow.

Edit: its quite comforting that there does remain untouched parts of this world... sadly probably not for long.

Edit/Edit: The documentary I was thinking of wasn't that one - it was filmed in the 70's I think, and it was 2 French or Belgian anthropologists... can't find it anyways.

I saw something on Discovery a few months back. Guy was travelling along and found this tribe that had to travel like 100 miles to get to the nearest town so they could get MATCHES. They didn't know how to make fire. Is that unbelievable or what?

I also love that there are untouched pockets of the world. Finding new people and new species all the time. And even finding animals that were thought to be extinct. I know there's gotta be a giat sloth out there somewhere chillin'.

That actually pisses me off, big time.

Then I'm sure you'll love how american soldiers were supposedly passing out coins with bible scripture on them in Fallujah.

Are they called Quest?

They look like Oompa Loompas.

Haha, it doesn't seem real, it just feelsl fake to me... I don't know.

shooting arrows at passenger aircraft with civilians on it ?

that's pretty fucked up....

personally I think the brazilian government should have deployed some blackhawk helicopters to mow that entire village down

same here.

This is very cool.

The photo itself actually looks photoshopped, but I'm sure it's real. I'm all for leaving them the fuck alone, but if the government did make some sort of contact, I'd be the first in line to check out the report/photos.

The dude from "Survival International" is frankly disturbing. For all good intentions, he talks like they're monkeys, about to go extinct! If anyone is interested in reading an incredible book on the Amazon and some of the folks who live in it, check out Hugh Raffles' "In Amazonia". It's basic premise is that he discovered that this "tribe" had built a massive river, something that scientists didn't think was possible w/ their technology. His goal is to show how these people have changed the "natural" rainforest over and over again; he creates a really powerful defense of environmentalism without relying on the naive "naturalism" and "untouched" logics of outfits like Survival International.



Was it called Ongka's Big Moka? That was a popular anthro film in PNG.

I like how they explain the red ones but not that super-black one. No way dude's that dark really. He looks like a Predator ready for night duty.

I read yesterday that the women painted themselves black. Only the men are red/orange...and they did it only after being buzzed by the plane. There's video as well as multiple photos available.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7428476.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7426869.stm
Clearly, these people are expressing their human right of Fuck off and leave us the fuck alone



But we won't.

i think we need to fuck with them

It's fucking awesome!!

I just wish they would leave them the fuck alone.

But unfortunately white folk cant keep their sticky fingers the fuck outta ppls business.

Which is sad...

Thanks to Inty mentioning First Contact, I went on a anthropology documentary spree. I watched First Contact, a Margaret Mead documentary and started The Bare Foot Athropologists about some wacky guy named Tom Harrisson. All were pretty interesting even though I haven't finished the last mentioned. I've alway found anthropology interesting so it's cool to discover more content on youtube that doesn't involve the dumbing down of society. That's always a plus.



Umm, excuse me. I wash my hands at least 5 times a day so i wouldn't refer to these cracker paws as "sticky" mmkay thx.

the black one is obviously the villages second wave of defense

No worries. I have a few topics that I'd consider "my thing," and anthropology is among them. It bothers me a bit that anthropology is somewhat self-serving in a western sort of way, but at its very core, it's an interesting and ideologically altruistic line of work. I have no urges to disrupt nor wreck anyone's way of life, but at the same time...that's kinda what anthropology does. It takes the disruptive work others have done and builds on it. In a somewhat-sickening way, it's like boxing - nobody goes into that line of work thinking about money, power, notoriety and fame, but in the end that's basically what you wind up with, no matter your initial intentions.

First Contact is one of my favorite documentaries though. All those people huddled around a human-made landing strip because they have no fucking clue what an airplane is, only to be ridiculously frightened and at the same time fascinated by the idea of it, much less the foreign wonders it brings.

Again, if you can find it, I'd recommend the follow-up documentary about the Leahy brothers' descendants and their impact on the native culture throughout the generations.

...does nobody else remember the Tasaday?

update ....it was a hoax



Even in an age when cynical sleuths can hyper-analyze stories for truth and accuracy, the occasional hoax still slips through the cracks. Such was the case with a so-called "lost Amazon tribe."

A few months ago, mainstream news outlets (including, ahem, Yahoo!) reported that a photographer had found a lost tribe of warriors near the Brazilian-Peruvian border. Photos of the tribe backed up his claim.

As it turns out, the story is only half true. The men in the photo are members of a tribe, but it certainly ain't "lost." In fact, as the photographer, José Carlos Meirelles, recently explained, authorities have known about this particular tribe since 1910. The photographer and the agency that released the pictures wanted to make it seem like they were members of a lost tribe in order to call attention to the dangers the logging industry may have on the group.

The photographer recently came clean, and news outlets, perhaps embarrassed at having been taken for a ride, have been slow to pick up the story. Now, the word is starting to spread and articles in the Buzz are picking up steam. Expect a lot more brutal truth in the coming days.

ok ok lost or not, i still say we go fuck with them

Well, it wasn't exactly a "hoax." A hoax is a total falsehood. It was a half-truth (I'd call it a 3/4 truth, really). Yes, the tribe is real, they don't have contact with outsiders, they do paint themselves red when pissed off/angry/scared. The pictures are not staged.

The only untrue part, was that they were "previously unknown."

Edited.

that original bbc article never mentioned that the tribe was unknown... just that they were "uncontacted" and "isolated". there's even one line "The Brazilian government says it took the images to prove the tribe exists..." which suggests it was previously known the tribe was there.

Good point. I just reread the article, and it very carefully never claims the tribe was unknown. They just allowed people to read that implication in all by themselves. Other news outlets then added that portion, kinda like a media version of the game "telephone."

Unfortunately, now it is being trumpeted as a hoax all over the world, when in fact it wasn't. Whoops. Kinda fucks up the whole point. They ought not have allowed that to happen - made it clear that the tribe was known of, but never contacted. Now every time it will be mentioned in the future, someone will immediately say it was all bullshit.

I'm replying to highlight that I knew it wasn't all on the level.

But it seems it was, if you read the article. OTHER people made up/tacked on the "undiscovered" shit. The BBC didn't.

i'm still waiting for the helicopter pictures of bigfoot

just give me my dotdayum props already (and wish me happy birfday--it was the 19th)

Awww, well Happy Belated Birthday, sweetheart. Hope you had an excellent one.