http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=43692

I would love to walk through those sets.

Fuck I can't wait for this movie. Snyder said Mars, the rape, and the Black Freighter would be involved. But now I think the Black Freighter is going to be an anime series released separate?

I don't really like the first picture of the Nite Owl costume, and the changes for Ozymandias are ehh but the others looks spot on. Nite Owl looks too much like Batman.

I'm not familiar with the material but the recently release character pics look great and very interesting

It'll be a pretty, shiny, heartless entertainment just like his remake of Dawn of the Dead.

Which is too bad, because the strength of Watchmen is the philosophical underpinnings of the story, not the costumed derring-do.

I can't wait for this movie but I have some reservations about how they are going to fit the whole story into one movie. It would be better if it was a miniseries.

[quote="Digital Bits"]Warner has officially set the DVD and Blu-ray release of Watchmen: The Ultimate Cut for 11/3. The DVD will be a 5-disc set (SRP $43.87), while the Blu-ray will be a 4-disc set (SRP $59.99). The film has all the Director's Cut content integrated with Watchmen: Tales from the Black Freighter. The running time is 251 minutes.

Extras on both versions will include new audio commentary by Dave Gibbons and Zack Snyder, 5 featurettes (The Phenomenon: The Comic that Changed Comics, Real Super Heroes, Real Vigilantes, Mechanics: Technologies of a Fantastic World, Story Within a Story: The Books of Watchmen and Under the Hood), the Watchmen: Video Journals, My Chemical Romance's Desolation Row music video, the Watchmen: The Complete Motion Comics disc and a Digital Copy of the theatrical version of the film. The sets will be limited to 70,000 copies. [/quote]

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This sounds cool...does Under the Hood make the extended cut too?

I can't wait for this

I thought it was one of the best movies I have watched in a long time and never even heard of the comics.

I wish I could have seen it like that. Instead, loved the book and liked the movie until they ruined it with an emotionally false ending (not the Manhattan solution...Owl's reaction to Ozy). It was still 11,000 times better than the Kindergarten, too big for the idiot Wachowski bros to translate, V for Vendetta.

Of all the Moore movies, I still like From Hell best because the directors said "F it...let's just make a movie because this book is too dense anyways."

So are you going to be watching the seven hour version or not?

Of course...want to see how it looks with TBF mixed in. TBF was well done.

Agree on From Hell. It was enjoyable on its own terms.
Moore's always going to be too much for a 2-3 hour runtime. HBO should pick up Miracleman for a mini-series.

Finally caught Watchmen on DVD, and IMHO it paradoxically suffered from a crippling case of fidelity to the source material (following the comic so slavishly in some cases that it felt straightjacketed) coupled with a tin ear for the philosophy animating the action.

The characters all looked great, the production design was great, it was well cast aside from Veidt...but it played as just a hollow exercise in form.

So how was it?

Doesn't come out until Tuesday, but Cliff will probably be there at 11:59pm Monday night.

Agree 100%. After skimming the comic, I felt like the movie was sort of rehearsing the lines without understanding why they were being said.

I've said it once and I'll say it again. V for Vendetta was incredible. I loved it. As a standalone flick (not considering the original novel) what didn't you like about it?

Watchmen was awesome how it was.

Another reason why reading sucks. If you can't even enjoy a movie afterwards, what good is reading then?

The book took two contrasting ideological points (facism and anarchy) and busted ass to explore them, inspired by Moore's reaction to Thatcher but not overwhelmed by it and had a much darker tone. The movie was paint by numbers, watered down conservatism v. liberalism and too bright. It didn't have to be. It could have been bad ass visually (it was often anyways) and still gone deep. The Wachowski's, as proven in the Matrix sequels, are too shallow and stupid to pull it off and so, for me, the movie sucked.

Movies and books can be fine...as alluded to before, I thought From Hell was handled well on screen by making a movie and not pretending to be faithful to the source. I liked most of Watchmen until the end...the end was a cop out and totally gutless. Not as bad as V...that was so bad I wanted to kick something. The thing with V is that it would have been so easy to make it right.

Sin City was an AWESOME use of source material. Best I ever saw for the genre.

Those are just comics...other books have been well adapted and some have not. The ones that work usually work because people can walk away going I liked both because they were different and worked in their medium. V wasn't different enough so the vapidity going on was too noticeable.

I was completely puzzled by the ending, especially in a film that went out of its way, at points too far out of its way, to follow the exact footprints of the source material.

I don't understand why the studio wouldn't buy the "omg BIG SCARY OTHER! EVERYONE BAND TOGETHER!" alien attack idea, but got behind the completely brainless "omg OMNIPOTENT BEING WE CANNOT AFFECT IN ANY WAY WHO SPENT THE REST OF THE MOVIE STEPPING ON THE USSR! C'MON IVAN, LET'S TEAM UP!"



So true.
For pure fidelity to the source material, it's up there with flicks like A Clockwork Orange & The Maltese Falcon.

That's not even what bugged me at the end...it was Nite Owl attack Ozy...COMPLETE sell out. The whole point was only Rorshach fights it...everyone else goes utilitarian. That was just some fake ass ethos play which led to the same result but I'm supposed to think...I don't know what...Nite Owl and Spectre hitting it poolside after the bad news = emotionally valid ending.

Still not as bad as V. Let's all wear freaking masks? really? That's the answer...a big mass of conformity to represent a story about the radical individualism at the heart of anarchic thinking? Uugh.

I didn't read the book but Watchmen was def one of the best movies I have seen in a long time. I just like how the juxtaposed the past and present, etc. Maybe I should go get the comics if you all say they are that good.

Got the Ulti cut for the holidays and watched it last night...WOW. First off, let me say that watching a second time, the movie gets better. The somewhat distracting, stylized violence stops being distracting because it's expected. Hadn't seen the Director's cut footage (like the fate of Hollis) but it's one of the best scenes in the film and was soreley missing before. Integrating Black Freighter is jarring but by the end brilliant. Still don't like Dan's reaction to Veidt at the end (it's still a cheap cop out), but overall it went from good to better on second look.

As to the above, yes Lee, you should read it. It's a seminal work.

hmm, I may netflix the 'ultimate' edition just for the sake of comparison.

I have to say, I agree with a lot of this British person's opinions on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu8l0q4rgcg

He makes some fair points but I disagree with his take on V because V was garbage. Watchmen got better the second time. I tried to give V a second chance and turned it off because it sucked worse.

Oh, that I don't know. Didn't see that one.

You and me both on V. I can't figure out why people like that movie.

Truthfully though, it's a bit hard to translate most of Moore's material to film anyway. So when the movies are released, I try to just judge them by their own merits (I.E. is it a good film) as opposed to being faithful to the source material.

Because let's face it, how many movies based on pre-existing works ARE very faithful to begin with?

Watchmen - Best adaptation of Moore's work yet, and it's still a damn good movie.
V For Vendetta - I really liked about 50% of the movie, the rest was meh.
From Hell - hardly like the source material at all, but I love the movie.
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen - Well...I liked Sean Connery, that was about it.

Personally I would love to see a true horror/gothic reboot of "Swamp Thing" that focuses on Moore's early work on the series.

League of Extraordinary Gentlemen- wow, I remember seeing that trash once.

I love the concept but the execution was pure ass

Watchmen was hot I really don't understand the hate it gets, you can't possible put everything from the novel into a 2 hour movie you just can't