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#61 Cachimbo

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 05:01 PM

Anybody remember when Oba Carr made DLH crap in his trunks with a body shot?

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 05:21 PM

QUOTE(residentoftheearth @ Dec 26 2008, 08:06 AM) View Post

why did "ghost" guerrero leave dan goosen? seems like he was getting decent exposure.

two of the slimiest words in boxing

Shelley Finkel

basically Finkel advised Ghost that Dan wasn't living up to obiligations in terms of fights and monies and had Ghost file for bankruptcy which is the same tactic Finkel implored Victor Ortiz to do as welll

so no fights in about a year to get away from a company that gave him a great chance to constantly be on TV and get title shot money

QUOTE(SenseFullViolence @ Dec 29 2008, 07:07 AM) View Post

Ulises Solis is a p4per, he just doesnt have the resume

He would beat Ironboy, now that the little guy has some wear on his tread.

and hes gonna school Viloria

I think Brian has a heck of a chance as his hand are concrete and Archie can be dropped

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 08:55 PM

QUOTE(El Jefe @ Dec 29 2008, 05:21 PM) View Post

two of the slimiest words in boxing

Shelley Finkel

basically Finkel advised Ghost that Dan wasn't living up to obiligations in terms of fights and monies and had Ghost file for bankruptcy which is the same tactic Finkel implored Victor Ortiz to do as welll

so no fights in about a year to get away from a company that gave him a great chance to constantly be on TV and get title shot money

i wonder if ghost signing with ggp will get overturned like ortiz's signing.

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Posted 29 December 2008 - 11:03 PM

QUOTE(Cachimbo @ Dec 29 2008, 05:01 PM) View Post

Anybody remember when Oba Carr made DLH crap in his trunks with a body shot?

"Umm . . .I had a personal problem (nervous laugh)."

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 02:48 AM

I just saw my first fight with Michael Spinks at light heavyweight, god damn, that dude could fight!  It was only his second fight too, and he was going to war with a guy with a 7-3 record.  He looked like a lighter, skinnier Holyfield at times.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 05:26 AM

QUOTE(El Jefe @ Dec 29 2008, 06:21 PM) View Post

two of the slimiest words in boxing

Shelley Finkel

basically Finkel advised Ghost that Dan wasn't living up to obiligations in terms of fights and monies and had Ghost file for bankruptcy which is the same tactic Finkel implored Victor Ortiz to do as welll

so no fights in about a year to get away from a company that gave him a great chance to constantly be on TV and get title shot money
I think Brian has a heck of a chance as his hand are concrete and Archie can be dropped



i hate finkel. how can you look at the guy and not see the devil? Seriously. The way victor is going about shit lately, lost him a fan. i have seen 4-5 times in az. was a big fan. but c'mon.

i dont think viloria has a chance. Solis should be lb4lb like sensfull says, but his problem is he is inconsistent. i hope archie retires him.


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Posted 30 December 2008 - 09:06 AM

QUOTE(Salvy_Mic @ Dec 30 2008, 04:48 AM) View Post

I just saw my first fight with Michael Spinks at light heavyweight, god damn, that dude could fight!  It was only his second fight too, and he was going to war with a guy with a 7-3 record.  He looked like a lighter, skinnier Holyfield at times.


Yep. A very underrated fighter, IMO. I think he could have beaten anyone at Lt. Heavy ever. What he did at Heavyweight was pretty much all moxie. That's why I don't get down on him for the Tyson fight. That was something he could never have won.

Edited by AndrewP, 30 December 2008 - 09:07 AM.


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Posted 30 December 2008 - 09:35 AM

I was thinking about this the other day... Pacquiao's technical improvements over the past couple years. I haven't watched any of his earlier fights recently, but in my minds-eye, he's really made some huge strides. It occurred to me that it's quite rare for a guy to do that after 40 or so professional fights. I can think of lots of guys that go the other way... that regress, so to speak, technically as they get to that point of their careers.

Any other modern fighters you can think of that made such noticeable improvements after their first 40 or so pro fights?

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 09:53 AM

QUOTE(Brizzo @ Dec 30 2008, 09:35 AM) View Post

I was thinking about this the other day... Pacquiao's technical improvements over the past couple years. I haven't watched any of his earlier fights recently, but in my minds-eye, he's really made some huge strides. It occurred to me that it's quite rare for a guy to do that after 40 or so professional fights. I can think of lots of guys that go the other way... that regress, so to speak, technically as they get to that point of their careers.

Any other modern fighters you can think of that made such noticeable improvements after their first 40 or so pro fights?


Pac wants to improve and is honest with himself about his shortcomings and weaker areas, Not a lot of fighters possess the ability to be self critical, let alone have the gumption to do anything about it even if they did Too much ego, pride, stubbornness etc... He is special.

I thought MAB extended his career by going back to basics more than Assassinating.




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Posted 30 December 2008 - 11:08 AM

Leonard Ellerbe sucks ace.
So does Lawrence Cole.
And Gary Shaw.
Fuck Tarver.
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Posted 30 December 2008 - 11:20 AM

Watched Dawson/Johnson last night on Showtime2 and had it 8-4 Chad.  I had it closer the first time I watched it but this time it was a clear win for Chad.  Some rounds were close, don't get me wrong but a draw is kinda pushing it IMO and a win for Johnson is far fetched.  There were a lot of close rounds but I thought Chad did enough to get them.

Should there be a rematch? If Calzaghe doesn't fight either of 'em if/when Chad beats Tarver the 2nd time around, then yeah why not?  I still think Chad takes the rematch though.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 12:00 PM

QUOTE(P-LIFT @ Dec 30 2008, 11:20 AM) View Post

Watched Dawson/Johnson last night on Showtime2 and had it 8-4 Chad.  I had it closer the first time I watched it but this time it was a clear win for Chad.  Some rounds were close, don't get me wrong but a draw is kinda pushing it IMO and a win for Johnson is far fetched.  There were a lot of close rounds but I thought Chad did enough to get them.

Should there be a rematch? If Calzaghe doesn't fight either of 'em if/when Chad beats Tarver the 2nd time around, then yeah why not?  I still think Chad takes the rematch though.

i saw it as a 7-5 fight either way.  

close fights aren't robberies.  how can one not love glen johnson though?  

i definitely wanna see them go at it again though

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 12:11 PM

When Iran Barkley knocked out Michael Olajide in March 1988, it was a victory for all real men.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 12:14 PM

I'm not a Jimmy Lennon, Jr. fan.

I don't really have anything against him, just not a fan.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 12:15 PM

QUOTE(AndrewP @ Dec 30 2008, 06:11 PM) View Post

When Iran Barkley knocked out Michael Olajide in March 1988, it was a victory for all real men.

James Toney once said Iran hit harder than any fighter JT ever faced.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 12:32 PM

QUOTE(Drama @ Dec 30 2008, 12:00 PM) View Post

close fights aren't robberies.  


this cant be repeated often enough.

i cant tell you how many fights ive heard of as being "robberies" and then go back and see them as either good, close decisions, or pick 'em fights.

Winky v Feroz comes to mind. my mind is blanking, but there are many

i also had Chad winning close.  If BHop & Joe dont want Chad, then Glencoffe def deserves a rematch, or any big fight, but he wasnt robbed.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 06:32 PM

When I was a kid/young adult I was a really big Larry Holmes fan. I was the only one in the whole Closed Circut audience rooting for him to beat Gerry Cooney. I was pissed when Mike Tyson beat him.

Now all these years later, while I still appreciate his skill and dominance to this very day, when looking back at the videos and interviews with him I kind of find him to be a real asshole.

I think I actually would have been pulling for most of his opponents.


Just being honest.

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Posted 30 December 2008 - 06:36 PM

i miss Erik Morales

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 04:05 AM

Guillermo Jones will defend his title against Jean-Marc Mormeck in march
http://www.ledauphine.com/mormeck-vers-jon...p;article=83254

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 04:25 AM

QUOTE(Muttley85 @ Dec 31 2008, 02:05 PM) View Post

Guillermo Jones will defend his title against Jean-Marc Mormeck in march
http://www.ledauphine.com/mormeck-vers-jon...p;article=83254

Should be a decent scrap. I'm leaning towards a Jones win.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 04:58 AM

This is gonna be Mormeck's first fight in over a year practically.  I'm fully expecting Jones to win.  He's waited this long to get his first title, I don't see him parting with it easily, unless he's willing to unify with Adamek or Cunningham comes a-knocking.

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 06:56 AM

cruiserweights rule, fuk the heavys

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Posted 31 December 2008 - 09:27 AM

QUOTE(Brizzo @ Dec 30 2008, 05:35 PM) View Post

I was thinking about this the other day... Pacquiao's technical improvements over the past couple years. I haven't watched any of his earlier fights recently, but in my minds-eye, he's really made some huge strides. It occurred to me that it's quite rare for a guy to do that after 40 or so professional fights. I can think of lots of guys that go the other way... that regress, so to speak, technically as they get to that point of their careers.

Any other modern fighters you can think of that made such noticeable improvements after their first 40 or so pro fights?



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Posted 01 January 2009 - 08:40 PM

QUOTE(Cachimbo @ Dec 30 2008, 12:01 AM) View Post

Anybody remember when Oba Carr made DLH crap in his trunks with a body shot?

I remember something like that. He kept saying "I was dealing with some personal problems in the fight"

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 08:56 PM

I watched 12 PWill fights today.

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 08:57 PM

QUOTE(P-LIFT @ Jan 2 2009, 04:56 AM) View Post

I watched 12 PWill fights today.



That brings you closer to God. Did you watch him teach Margarito the A,B,C's of Boxing? That lesson made tony better than ever before. He should thank Paul. No gratitude, smh.

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 09:00 PM

Carr was beating Oscar pretty clearly, IMO, until the KO outta nowhere. Oscar didn't really do anything.

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 09:05 PM

Niccolino Loche is one of the truly great to watch defensive fighters

Course there's not much to watch which is a problem

Looking at Hopkins-Trinidad again there can't be many fighters more disciplined than him, outside the ring, inside the ring, he could have opened up earlier and been fine but he stuck to the plan completely.

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 09:06 PM

QUOTE(PWillIsTheMan @ Jan 2 2009, 12:57 AM) View Post

That brings you closer to God. Did you watch him teach Margarito the A,B,C's of Boxing? That lesson made tony better than ever before. He should thank Paul. No gratitude, smh.

Nah I'm going in order thru dvds.  I wanted to go right to that fight but I have this thing when I get a career set that I go from start to finish.  The next fight is the one against Matthyse.

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 09:19 PM

You know what gave me almost as much joy as watching Oscar get destroyed by Pac? The fact that Millie seemed to be enjoying it.



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