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#62
Posted 03 November 2006 - 04:38 PM
re-read what i said..
odom will disappear once kobe comes back like he always does...i think his knee may be worse..cant believe him and the kid have been playin like 10 yrs...
where did i say anything about kobe's age? all i said was i cant believe hes been playin for 10 yrs(him and KG)...
so, i'm not sure what you are talking about
does odom not disappear when they are both on the floor?
i dont know how serious his knee is...apparently he might play tonight..
i do agree kobe keeps himself in tremendous shape..off season or on..but he has had some injuries..he is not a young kid anymore..the window has closed
shaq? yes, who knows..but he's still had a good career, nonetheless..
did u or did u not say what i'm gonna quote below?
u said it in another post....
#63
Posted 03 November 2006 - 04:42 PM
Kobe at 28 is not equal to Jordan at 28.
Kobe's an old 28 as you already know. Plus you can argue Kobe has already hit his stride, the guy has a 3-5 year window to get a title...
I do think he will win one in that period, or in the least will be pefrectly poised to do so.
lmao....how so??? Jordan didn't play ball as a teen or in his early 20s??? For someone who avg 35 last season I'd say he's just starting to hit his stride....
#64
Posted 03 November 2006 - 04:42 PM
did u or did u not say what i'm gonna quote below?
u said it in another post....
yes i said that...is that not true? again, i think he is a old 28 and his body may be starting to break down..i think he has ALWAYS played hard..thats the nature of the kid...
we will agree to disagree
#65
Posted 03 November 2006 - 04:55 PM
lmao....how so??? Jordan didn't play ball as a teen or in his early 20s??? For someone who avg 35 last season I'd say he's just starting to hit his stride....
"Playing ball" and being an NBA player are two different things. The grind of playing over 100 games a season nearly half your career is going to take a toll. That's a fact. Why you and rudy would want to discuss this perplexes me.
I also disagree with the whole hitting his stride thing for the sole reason that he scored 35/game last season. I remember Kobe averaging 30 WITH a better Shaq, so scoring 35 without the diesel isn't as impressive to me, nor does it prove in any way that he's hitting his stride...
Edited by Wanevaan, 03 November 2006 - 04:58 PM.
#66
Posted 03 November 2006 - 05:01 PM
a.."Playing ball" and being an NBA player are two different things. The grind of playing over 100 games a season nearly half your career is going to take a toll. That's a fact. Why you and rudy would want to discuss this perplexes me.
b...I also disagree with the whole hitting his stride thing for the sole reason that he scored 35/game last season. I remember Kobe averaging 30 WITH a better Shaq, so scoring 35 without the diesel isn't as impressive to me, nor does it prove in any way that he's hitting his stride...
a..Kareem Abdul Jabbar....ALWAYS took care of himself....nuff said...
b...I remember when people used to say Kobe only scored so much BECAUSE of Shaq...which when you now look at it...It was Shaqs presence that was holding him back...No more Shaq=Kobe hitting his stride...even though this year, I think he will tone it down a bit on the scoring side and garner a career high in assists...
Edited by Chingao!, 03 November 2006 - 05:02 PM.
#67
Posted 03 November 2006 - 05:05 PM
maybe AI was right

#69
Posted 03 November 2006 - 05:30 PM
a..Kareem Abdul Jabbar....ALWAYS took care of himself....nuff said...
b...I remember when people used to say Kobe only scored so much BECAUSE of Shaq...which when you now look at it...It was Shaqs presence that was holding him back...No more Shaq=Kobe hitting his stride...even though this year, I think he will tone it down a bit on the scoring side and garner a career high in assists...
a. I never brought up conditioning, so I don't know where you are going with that.
b. Shaq's presence helped Kobe IMO. What exactly was Shaq's presence holding Kobe back from? Scoring? Well yeah, he had all the room in the world to pull off his Dominique Wilkins impersonation last year.
ok u guys win.. he's old.. having said that, what does that make me? cuz i play ball way more than 82 times a year up to 3 or 4 hours a day...and i run more than he does as well.. so does that make me old too?
Old being a relative term here "basketball age" or more specifically "NBA age", if you will...
#70
Posted 03 November 2006 - 05:31 PM
wow..i really thought he was goin to the heat..i think he would have fit in better in miami..giving payton a spell..
where will he get minutes in phoenix? there pretty deep... i cant see him at his age runnin the floor..
Edited by Ron Champ Miller, 03 November 2006 - 06:11 PM.
#74
Posted 04 November 2006 - 06:10 AM
Sixers... 2-0 What is going on??????????
look who we are playin..lol
kobe looked good last night....he actually elevated off that knee and dunked, something he didnt do last yr...
jesus looked good as well...
kobes timing was off and a bit rusty, but that will come w/play...
#76
Posted 04 November 2006 - 06:29 AM
i have a problem with myopic fans(cub fans esp.) who think their team is going to win the the title, when they really have no shot...i know my teams suck, and have no problem admitting that...i know the eagles are not goin to the sb, the sixers are not goin to the NBA finals..the phillies suck..i dont get wrapped up like some fans..does that make me a fairweather fan? i dont think so...like a wise man once told me, "i'm not a FANatic, i'm a fan of the team....same here...
i'm more of a 'players' fan....jordan, pete rose, etc....i like players over teams
i've been following the lakers since 94 when i came out here...and b4 that, i followed them as my dad was a big celtics fan...
i appreciated their 3 peat..you have to be a great team to do that....i followed/bet them when they beat portland/suckramento..routed for them....
..but i also followed the phil/kobe/shaq wars to know a bit more about them...learned alot about kobe that i didnt know....its different when you live in the city of the team....for instance, my boy phillysteaks told me things about Dnabb i never knew...i'm a huge eagles fan, but i'm not in philly so i didnt know...same as here in LA...
i used to be a big kobe fan..but after everything that has happened(i dont have to rehash things again, for the 1000th time) i just dont like him....i have a different view on kobe....i'll leave it at that...
great talent? sure..i never said he wasnt..
its just my opinion i dont think he will win another title..just like dnabb wont win..
i said the same things about the yankees(another team i follow) after 2001...
thats not hate, thats just facts...
#77
Posted 04 November 2006 - 09:24 AM
Do you watch basketball?
My pick out the East still bothering you?
I just think the Cavs will get there, that's just my opinion.
It's not crazy neither, least I don't think so. The Pistons were taken to the brink by the LeBrons who had his first playoff run. This without a healthy Larry Hughes, though not elite, is a good scorer and very good perimeter defender. They also lost Ben Wallace and replaced him with Nazr Mohammad (enough said). Sheed is horridly inconsistent.
The Heat are/were a one and done team. I just do not see them getting to the finals with the squad they have right now with NO offseason moves of note. Walker is such a liabilty on BOTH ends of the floor, Payton can't keep up with the young guns anymore, Shaq has an inability to consistently get up and down the floor, Williams can't guard anybody. They put it all together last year despite these problems, which is why they won't do it again. They're old.
Edited by Wanevaan, 04 November 2006 - 09:29 AM.
#78
Posted 04 November 2006 - 10:54 AM
great talent? sure..i never said he wasnt..
"kobe sux"
remember that?

#79
Posted 04 November 2006 - 11:05 AM
"kobe sux"
remember that?

dude, dont take things literally...
#81
Posted 04 November 2006 - 12:48 PM
why not? if u say "i'm gay"... why am i not to believe u mean that?
just curious.whats your obsession with kobe.?
i've also said mcnabb sux, eagles suck, sixers suck, phillies suck...just wondering why you havent said anything about that?
#83
Posted 04 November 2006 - 04:42 PM
just curious.whats your obsession with kobe.?
i've also said mcnabb sux, eagles suck, sixers suck, phillies suck...just wondering why you havent said anything about that?
I've always hated the mf, but i will not come up here and act like he aint great cuz i don't like him personally... same with roid jones, same with peyton manning..... if i don't like someone then fine.. that's ok.. people can like who they wanna, but when u start saying shit like the best player in the league sux and discrediting achievements, then i have to defend... btw, i don't watch football at all, but if the old board was up, i have defended roid as well to people claiming he is overrated and never accomplished anything...... my obbsession isn't with kobe, it's with blind haters....
and stoudamire had 5 points last night... as much as it pains me to say this, he is this era's ralph sampson...
#86
Posted 04 November 2006 - 05:47 PM
btw nice sig ron.. u do know that play is what led to shaq fouling out on Christmas day right?
#87
Posted 04 November 2006 - 05:50 PM
Wade averaged around 16 points his rookie year and I think 23 his second year. The 7 PPG difference is partly due to Shaq, but I think he could have pulled around 20 PPG without Shaq though. I think he would have naturally progressed, just not as quickly.
Edited by Wanevaan, 04 November 2006 - 06:25 PM.
#88
Posted 04 November 2006 - 06:11 PM
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Posted 04 November 2006 - 07:16 PM
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